[fa.railroad] Need info - Lionel O, O27

railroad@ucbvax.ARPA (12/29/84)

From: lucas@cmu-psy-a (pete lucas)

To answer your specific question:  yes, there is a big price difference
between 0 and 027.  027 track and, to a lesser extent, switches, are
generally considered "junk" by serious collectors and often go for a song
at train meets (after the requisite haggling, of course).  As for current
production, Lionel/General Mills has two separate product lines: The
"traditional" line is all 027, relatively inexpensive, and mostly looks it.
The "collector" series consists of ressurections of old Lionel, including 0
guage switches and such.  The latter is definitely aimed at collectors, not
the mass market, which explains the prices you found.  All things considered,
you should almost certainly find a train meet and stick with used 0 guage.

Actually, there is a third option, one which is dear to my heart.  From 1957
through the mid 60's, Lionel produced a track called Super-O.  It was
intended to eventually replace O as the top-of-the-line track (which never
happened). Super-O has a slightly wider turn radius than O (36" I believe)
and is radically different from traditinal tinplate track.  Instead of the
usual 3 metal ties, it had reasonably realistic (by toy-train standards)
closely spaced plastic ties.  Instead of a full center rail, it had a
less-obtrusive flat copper-clad strip for center power pick-up.  Each
section came with an easily-lost metal clip for connecting the power rails.
The outer rails had flat-topped "T" rail cross-sections, rather than the
rounded, tubular rails of O and O27.  There was a full line of switches,
crossovers, etc available, although the quality of the switches was not as
high as O guage.  This stuff is harder to find than O or O27 and costs
somewhat more than O, but it is usually avaiable at good train meets.  It
makes a really pretty layout, adding a touch of realism while maintaining the
toy-train charm of Lionel O guage tinplate.  Of course, there is no current
production and little likelyhood that there ever will be.

I've run Super-O since my parents stumbled across a Christmas-eve (of 1957)
closeout of a top-of-the-line set including a 746 N&W Niagra and 4 major
accessories for the wild price of $50!  I am exceedingly pleased to report
that I still have that set.  They don't all get away.
				-pete