[comp.os.os2.programmer] PM Tools & Training

elletson@snowbird.crd.ge.com (Paul A Elletson) (03/05/91)

I'm about to begin development of a GUI using Microsoft C 6.0 and
the OS/2 Presentation Manager on a Northgate 486 machine (25 Mhz) with 
8 meg RAM.  I would welcome any advice on the following:

(1) useful software development tools to simplify and speed development
(2) training courses offered which focus on software development using
    the OS/2 Presentation Manager

Thanks,

Paul Elletson (elletson@crd.ge.com)

joeb@hpnmdla.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) (03/07/91)

For what it's worth, I've found the best tools for PM development are
the IBM Developer's Kit (not the MS one) and Smalltalk/V PM.

I prefer the IBM developer's kit because it contains more information
than the MS one, combining what MS calls the "Developer's Kit" and the
"Device Driver Kit."  Plus, it has the docs on OS/2 v. 1.3, which MS
doesn't offer.  Last, IBM is more religious about updating their kit
and making that update available to developers at low cost.

Smalltalk/V PM is a fantastic environment for "interactively" testing
PM programs.  You can sit at the keyboard and find out how each PM
function works by invoking it and inspecting the results.  This is
better than Codeview 'cause you don't have to go through the edit/
compile/link phase every time you want to try something different.
Smalltalk/V PM does NOT replace the need for an SDK, however.

-- Joe B.

#include <standard.disclaimer>

kim@watnow.waterloo.edu (T. Kim Nguyen) (03/09/91)

I would go with something more user friendly and powerful than just
MS-C and the dev toolkit.  We're looking at getting Object/1 which is
an object oriented toolkit (similar to C and C++).  Its advantage is
that you don't have to learn smalltalk, I suppose.
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schweigl@edvvie.at (Johnny Schweigl/2113674) (03/12/91)

From article <17310@crdgw1.crd.ge.com>, by elletson@snowbird.crd.ge.com (Paul A Elletson):
> I'm about to begin development of a GUI using Microsoft C 6.0 and
> the OS/2 Presentation Manager on a Northgate 486 machine (25 Mhz) with 
> 8 meg RAM.  I would welcome any advice on the following:
> 
> (1) useful software development tools to simplify and speed development

I'm currently using Glockenspiel CommonView along with Glockenspiels C++ 2.0
which enabled a non-PM programmer (me!) to write a small application in
a week. The ease of creating and using graphical dialog elements stunned me.
Possibly a PM whiz can comment on this?
Besides, Commonview code should be portable between PM, MS Win 3.0a and Motif.
Of course you must use C++, but it's no pain to learn.

Second, I have a flyer from a german company, ISA, which describes a tool
called 'Dialog Manager'. It seems to be a sophisticated GUI builder that
interfaces to C, C++, Fortran, Pascal and, sigh, COBOL. Ports to MS Win 3.0
and Motif also.
ISA can be reached at info@isaak.uucp

If you get more info, would you please summarize to the net?
Regards, Johnny

fhart@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Fred Hart) (03/21/91)

Are there any OS/2 PM static analysis tools in existance which give a graphical
display of a program's calling hierarchy. The type of program I am looking for
is something similar to Image Soft's C View under Windows. Thanks in advance.

-- Fred Hart
   Fred.Hart@AtlantaGA.ncr.com