[bionet.users.addresses] FTP and TELNET Primer...

HARPER@CSC.FI ("Robert Harper Finland", CSC) (12/20/90)

   So basically you want me to reinvent the wheel:-) OK some background
   information for novices: This is going to be REAL SIMPLE.

   If you are studying at a University your mainframe computer  might
   either be on BITNET, INTERNET or both. Generally E-mail addresses for
   BITNET take the form USER@NODE and in most cases the USER and the @NODE
   are limited to EIGHT  characters. (See BioBit9 for naming conventions). 

   For example my BITNET address is HARPER@FINFUN. For INTERNET the E-mail
   addresses take the form  USER@DOMAIN.SUBDOMAIN.COUNTRY and my INTERNET
   address is  HARPER@CSC.FI. Both addresses are equivilent and point to the 
   same machine.

   So look at you OWN address and determine if you are on BITNET  or
   INTERNET. If you are on BITNET forget about TELNET and FTP you just
   can't utilize those utilities. However if you are on  INTERNET then it
   means that you should have access to TCP/IP protocols... namely TELNET
   and FTP.

   You use TELNET to establish a REMOTE session with a foreign  computer.
   Usually you would need a USERID or a PASSWORD to get  into the foreign
   machine but some folks set things up so you  can log in with the
   USERNAME ANONYMOUS and the PASSWORD GUEST. This is the case with the
   free library service. I have already given a TELNET example a few weeks
   back so I will deal with an FTP session now.

   You use FTP (File Trnasfer Protocol) to upload or download  files from a
   remote host. In BIONEWS there was a recent posting  regarding anonymous
   FTP sites for Molecular biology by Mike Gribskov. In it he mentions
   @NIC.FUNET.FI (What do you know an INTERNET ADDRESS)

   @NIC        National Information Centre
   .FUNET      Finnish Universities Network
   .FI         Finland 
                                                                  
   Since you want an example of a FTP session here is one to  NIC.FUNET.FI
   I know something about this one since I set up the molbio areas. I put
   !comments after the commands

$ ftp nic.funet.fi                ! command to call the remote host
220 nic.funet.fi FTP server 
(Version 4.461 +mea@nic.funet.fi Tue Dec 11 12:24:0.
Remote User Name:anonymous        !Anonymous is the userid
Remote Password:                  !give your USER@NODE... it is polite
ftp> dir                          !command to see what is available
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel         7072 Nov 27 13:10 README
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel         1965 Nov 27 13:05 README.UPLOADER
drwxr-sr-x  2 root      wheel          512 Dec 13 00:55 bin
drwxr-sr-x  2 root      wheel          512 Dec  9 17:18 etc
drwxrwxr-x  2 root      ftp           1024 Dec 15 21:32 files
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel         1080 Apr 12  1990 ls-FORMATS
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel       963921 Dec 18 22:17 ls-ZGR.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel       686711 Dec 18 22:14 ls-ZRlag.Z
drwxr-xr-x  9 root      funstaff       512 Dec 12 11:10 pub
drwxr-sr-x  2 mea       wheel          512 Sep 26 06:30 staff-docs
ftp> cd \pub\misc\molbio          ! change directory to the molbio stuff.
ftp> dir                          !look at the directories
drwxr-xr-x  2 harper    guests         512 Sep 27 06:38 biobit
drwxr-xr-x  2 harper    guests        1536 Oct 26 13:31 mac
drwxr-xr-x  2 harper    guests        1024 Sep 19 13:51 msdos
drwxr-xr-x  2 harper    guests         512 Sep 17 08:58 unix
drwxr-xr-x  2 harper    guests         512 Sep 13 09:11 vax
ftp> cd biobit                    ! change directory to biobit
ftp> dir
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       47212 Sep 21 11:39 biobit1.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests        9655 Sep 21 11:39 biobit10.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       13289 Sep 21 11:39 biobit11.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       12166 Sep 21 11:39 biobit12.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       14155 Sep 21 11:39 biobit13.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       15947 Sep 21 11:39 biobit14.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       11737 Sep 21 11:39 biobit15.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       12350 Sep 21 11:39 biobit16.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       24777 Sep 21 11:39 biobit2.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       22138 Sep 21 11:39 biobit3.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       19191 Sep 21 11:39 biobit4.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       10831 Sep 21 11:39 biobit5.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests        9331 Sep 21 11:39 biobit6.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       11977 Sep 21 11:39 biobit7.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests       11671 Sep 21 11:39 biobit8.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests        8435 Sep 21 11:39 biobit9.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests         951 Sep 21 11:39 index
-rw-r--r--  1 harper    guests         232 Sep 21 11:40 read.me
ftp> get index -               ! read the index file online
BIOBIT1.TXT           Computer Viruses
BIOBIT2.TXT           BIONET (What is it?)
BIOBIT3.TXT           RED TRICKLE SERVER (How does it work?)
BIOBIT4.TXT           Using Relay from LifeSci
BIOBIT5.TXT           Using FTP
BIOBIT6.TXT           ARCHIVING and ENCODING
BIOBIT7.TXT           Comparison of archiving programmes
BIOBIT8.TXT           Review of Current Contents on Disk
BIOBIT9.TXT           Naming conventions on EARN
BIOBIT10.TXT          Guide to mail gateways
BIOBIT11.TXT          Using the EMBL netserver
BIOBIT12.TXT          LDBASE and its use with LISTSERV
BIOBIT13.TXT          Mistakes you can make on the network :-)
BIOBIT14.TXT          International Center for Genetic engineering and Biotech.
BIOBIT15.TXT          Introduction to GOS (Genbank On-line Service)
BIOBIT16.TXT          Newsreader software ANU NEWS
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And we find that we have indeed reinvented the wheel cos 
BioBit5 deals with using FTP:-)
ftp> bye              ! finnish the remote session

I have only touched some of the things you can do with FTP... 
guess you will have to FTP BioBit5.txt to find out how to do 
the rest.

Rob "the righteous man prefers honour over wealth" Harper

   Socrates said that and he died on a point of honour and broke:-)