chik@eecg.toronto.edu (Raymond Chik) (03/27/91)
In article <ihaGq7j91@cs.psu.edu> soohong@guardian.cs.psu.edu writes: >Hello. > Does anyone know if SuperCrystal from U.C. Berkeley is available for users >outside the university? > [stuffs deleted] > What other timing/simulation programs are popular (except spice and Lsim)? >I am in need of rather accurately measuring delays through moderately sized >circuits (100 to 1000 transistors), but spice is way too slow and it is very >usual to fail to converge. SCS's Lsim, in ADEPT mode, is too slow either. >Crystal, on the other hand, is fast but is too inaccurate. Is there any >other simulators/timing analyzers would you recommend? >Am I asking for the moon? > Have you tried Silos? We used to use crystal in our lab years ago.... Nowadays we mainly use Silos..... We also have a locally developed simulator called AWSIM (analog wavefrom simulator) for logic simulation. I believe both are not too slow :-) ************************************************************************** * May the force be with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* * Raymond Y. V. Chik |_ \ _| * * VLSI Research Grp. || -------- || * * Dept. of Elec. Eng. _||o-+ | -+-+- +-o||_ * * U. of Toronto | | | +-+ | | * * |_ | | _|_ | _| * *Internet: chik@eecg.toronto.edu ||--+ | | | | +--|| * * chik@vrg.toronto.edu _|| / | | | ||_ * * 8-) >-( |-< %-> | | | * **************************************************************************