[comp.lsi.cad] 3.3V v/s 5V

ssave@ole.UUCP (Shailendra Save) (05/24/91)

  In this week's Electronic Engineering Times (May 20th issue)
  there is an article about AT&T developing a 3.3V cell library.
  On pp 16, (bottom 2nd column) they claim:

  The basic 2 input NAND-gate power rating is 6.1uW/MHz at 5V
  dropping to 1.1uW/MHz at 3.3V

  I am missing something here. If it is a CV^2 relationship,
  it should be approx. 2.5 and not 1.1  Could some knowledgeable
  person please tell me how this claim is true? Do they use a
  different process? 

					Shailendra
					ssave@caen.engin.umich.edu
					sumax!ole.uucp!ssave

arnief@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Arnie Frisch) (05/25/91)

In article <1956@ole.UUCP> ssave@ole.UUCP (Shailendra Save) writes:
>
>  In this week's Electronic Engineering Times (May 20th issue)
>  there is an article about AT&T developing a 3.3V cell library.
>  On pp 16, (bottom 2nd column) they claim:
>
>  The basic 2 input NAND-gate power rating is 6.1uW/MHz at 5V
>  dropping to 1.1uW/MHz at 3.3V
>
>  I am missing something here. If it is a CV^2 relationship,
>  it should be approx. 2.5 and not 1.1
>
>					Shailendra

The way these things work is that the charging current available is a
function of the difference between the power supply voltage and the
enhacement threshold voltage of the fets.  As you reduce the power
supply voltage, the circuit gets slower (and ultimately stops working)
at the same time the uW/Mhz get smaller, ultimately going to zero when
the fets no longer are turned on at all.

Arnold Frisch
Tektronix Laboratories

sllu@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Shih-Lien Lu) (05/26/91)

>In article <1956@ole.UUCP> ssave@ole.UUCP (Shailendra Save) writes:
>>
>>  In this week's Electronic Engineering Times (May 20th issue)
>>  there is an article about AT&T developing a 3.3V cell library.
>>  On pp 16, (bottom 2nd column) they claim:
>>
>>  The basic 2 input NAND-gate power rating is 6.1uW/MHz at 5V
>>  dropping to 1.1uW/MHz at 3.3V
>>
>>  I am missing something here. If it is a CV^2 relationship,
>>  it should be approx. 2.5 and not 1.1
>>
>>					Shailendra
>
>The way these things work is that the charging current available is a
>function of the difference between the power supply voltage and the
>enhacement threshold voltage of the fets.  As you reduce the power
>supply voltage, the circuit gets slower (and ultimately stops working)
>at the same time the uW/Mhz get smaller, ultimately going to zero when
>the fets no longer are turned on at all.
>
>Arnold Frisch
>Tektronix Laboratories

Are you saying that because Id is smaller, the integral of V(t)Id(t) dt
is smaller? How can one work out the integral?

I do not really know the extact AT&T technology. As Shailendra
pointed out that the dynamic power dissipation is a CV^2 relationship.
Is it possible that the C used in the equation is smaller by a factor of ~2.
As I recall the real (somewhat old) "metal-oxide" gate (instead of
the modern polysilicon gate) process has a smaller gate capacitances. 
Is AT&T's process a C"M"OS process? Just curious.

Shih-Lien