corey@svo.UUCP (Corey E. McCormick) (06/29/87)
I seem to remember a couple of years ago that I saw an ad slick from
Intel that showed what I think was an EEC-IV FoMoCo processor that
utilized an Intel 8096 microcontroller. Does memory serve me
correctly? Regardless, could someone tell me what Ford uses. I don't
want to take ye ol' SVO's brain out just to satisfy my curiosity. It
would cost me another $300+ if I screwed it up. I have to replace the
current one (it keeps deciding that 10-20 degrees of retard now and
again with 15lbs of boost is fun!) and I was tempted to use it as a
guinea pig if I don't have to trade it in.
Thanx,
Corey McCormick
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Tulsa, OK 74135-6414wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP (Michael R. Wayne) (07/01/87)
In article <403@svo.UUCP> corey@svo.UUCP (Corey E. McCormick) writes: >I seem to remember a couple of years ago that I saw an ad slick from >Intel that showed what I think was an EEC-IV FoMoCo processor that >utilized an Intel 8096 microcontroller. Does memory serve me >correctly? Regardless, could someone tell me what Ford uses. I don't >want to take ye ol' SVO's brain out just to satisfy my curiosity. It >would cost me another $300+ if I screwed it up. I have to replace the >current one (it keeps deciding that 10-20 degrees of retard now and >again with 15lbs of boost is fun!) and I was tempted to use it as a >guinea pig if I don't have to trade it in. Your memory is not correct, the processor is an Intel 8061. It uses custom MROMs/EEPROMs (I don't have the part number handy). I do not know if the 8061 is available to the public. The 8096 is very similar in op codes but the way it talks to memory is VERY different (The 8061 does not have anything resembling a normal address/data bus). Are you SURE that you need to replace the processor? I would suspect that your PIP sensor is either incorrectly set or broken or a wire is bad. The problems are generally with the sensors, programs either run or they don't! You should be able to purchase a replacement MROM for less than the price of the entire module. If any others out there in netland are looking at modifying your vehicle, the cost is not cheap. The tools are mostly proprietary to Ford. I can direct you to the proper divisions to talk to but the last time I costed a development station, it was $20K for tools PLUS a machine to do software development on. This is the price you pay for developing your own microprocessor (Ford & Intel jointly developed the 8061). Now, a GM vehicle can be tweaked with an off the shelf, 2732 PROM programmer (if you can find someone to tell you what the ROM locations mean. Before you ask: no I do not know but would like to.) The work I do directly involves EEC-IV (8061) programming but I do NOT have access to ANY of the production code or strategy books (What I do may see production in 1995+, if ever). Even if I did, I couldn't give you one. Since I am not an employee of Ford, but only a contractor, I have to be extremely careful in the way I deal with proprietary information. The above information is generally available if you know where to look. -- Michael R. Wayne Working at (but not employed by) Ford Motor Company Voice: (313) 322-3986 Arpa: wayne@ford-vax.arpa (not preferred) uucp: {philabs | pyramid | ihnp4!mibte} !fmsrl7!wayne OR wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP
jsf007@killer.UUCP (Steve Fintel) (07/02/87)
In article <403@svo.UUCP>, corey@svo.UUCP (Corey E. McCormick) writes: > I seem to remember a couple of years ago that I saw an ad slick from > Intel that showed what I think was an EEC-IV FoMoCo processor that > utilized an Intel 8096 microcontroller. Does memory serve me > correctly? > > Thanx, > Corey McCormick The 8096 is a distant cousin to the 8061 that is in FoMoCo engine controllers. The 8061 is actually a two chip CPU system where the 8096 is a single chip microcontroller. Steve Fintel killer!jsf007
zeeff@b-tech.UUCP (Jon Zeeff) (07/03/87)
I used to work for Ford programming their EEC-IV. I've also done some programming on the 8096. They are almost the same, with the 8096 being a bit nicer (less buggy for one thing). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Zeeff Branch Technology, Ann Arbor, MI seismo!umix!b-tech!zeeff zeeff%b-tech.uucp@umix.cc.umich.edu