[comp.lsi] Cad system needed

rminnich@super.super.org (Ronald G Minnich) (05/18/89)

Well it looks like we can get a cad system in at SRC if we can name 
one. I was hoping that somewhere out on the net someone could give me 
a name. 
   We are looking for a cad system to design boards, boxes, and systems
with standard parts (74xxx and maybe MC10xxx?) and gate arrays; full-custom
is not in the cards at the moment but might be. We want to be able to 
simulate and VHDL support would be nice. We have a Zycad here and some path
from the CAD system to the Zycad would be nice too, but we feel the 
quality of the system is much more important than whether it supports
the Zycad or not. In other words, we don't want to buy a crummy CAD system
just because it supports the Zycad. 
   I haven't really looked at CAD systems for a couple of years, so of 
course am totally out of touch with all the good things that have
been happening. The most recent demo i got was on an HP system, but of 
course that runs only on HP boxes and we have Suns here. Something
like the HP system would be nice. We won't buy HP boxes just to run
their cad, however. We want to use the Sun 3/60s on people's desks. 
We have a single license for Valid, but no one really likes it that much. 
We do have some ViewLogic proponents. We only have ViewLogic on a PC. 

   Our most important requirements
0) Graphical interface. I shouldn't have to say this, but we just had
   a vendor in who doesn't suport it!
1) Runs on Sun 3s. The smallest machine would be a 3/60. We are getting 
   3/80s and a batch of 4/60s. 
2) X windows are preferred. It would be even nicer if parts of the system
   could run on our Cray and display on the Sun, but i kind of doubt
   anyone is doing that ...
3) Standard parts library. I mention this only because a vendor was just here
   and showed us their system, which won't have a standard parts library
   or schematic capture. I can't believe anyone is still doing this ...
4) Support for gate array design. 
5) Support for high-level modelling. 
6) Ability to define data types. 
7) Ability to lay out a board. Not pc-board layout, but chip layout for a
   board to be wire-wrapped or shipped out for Multiwire. We have done 
   both already. 
8) Simulation with the usual sort of logic-analyzer like displays. 

   Any help anyone could give will be welcome. If there is sufficient
interest I will summarize to the net, but please e-mail directly. I 
just can't keep up with these lists anymore ...
   Thanks very much in advance,
ron
rminnich@super.org