[comp.arch] Striking a few more SPARCs :-}

rdm@cfcl.UUCP (11/19/87)

FLAME ON

I have been following the SPARC MIPS controversy with some interest.
There is some room left for doubt left by Mr. Mashey's figures, but
he admits this freely, and shows his assumptions and methods freely.

Sun's John Hime, on the other hand, first talked about "not having to
respond to a Sunnyvale start-up", then recently complained publicly
of a "smear campaign" being leveled at Sun.  Really.

GIGGLE ON

I was therefore more than a little amused to receive the following
Sun press release, which will no doubt make its way into at least
some of the industry journals:

    The following announcement was sent out November 10, 1987. 
    For further information, please contact,  
    
         John Loiacono, Sun Microsystems (415) 691-6424
         Rich Dickerson, Daisy Systems (415) 960-6674.
    
    DAISY SYSTEMS BOOSTS PERFORMANCE OF 
    BOARD ROUTING SOFTWARE WITH NEW SUN-4 RISC SERVER
    
    MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., November 10, 1987 - Sun Microsystems, Inc.
    and Daisy Systems Corporation announced today a new high performance
    network server ... the new system utilizes Sun Microsystems' RISC-
    based Sun 4/260 deskside server ... this new product performs
    routing tasks at six to seven times the speed currently achievable
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    on Digital Equipment Corporation's MicroVAXII.
    
    ...
    
    "The 10 MIPS performance of the XL Server enables ...
         ^^^^^^^

Does that make the MicroVax II a 1.5 MIPS box?  I always thought it
was more like 90% of a 780...

GIGGLE OFF

Really, Sun, I'm sure you have a wonderful chip there, and I'm even
willing to believe that it may achieve 10 MIPS when you get it all
together.  I may even buy one of the things, though I'll probably
wait for the ECL version.  In the meanwhile, however, could you try
to restrain your Mr. Hime a bit, and/or produce some believable,
verifiable numbers?

FLAME OFF
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davidsen@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP (William E. Davidsen Jr) (11/23/87)

I haven't tested the Sun4 myself, but a general comment about the
performance of computers which was flamed here recently: there was a
reference to performance 6 to 7 times that available on a MicroVAX-II.
This is more useful than MIPS figures. Performance on one program may
not reflect the general performance of two machines. If the code is in
some way less optimal for a Sun4 than a MVII, then the wire routing
figures and the MIPS could both be real.

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