[comp.arch] NeXT Rumors...

hs0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hugh Brinkley Sprunt) (02/06/88)

    Here is a brief summary of the responses to my question about
    the workstation from NeXT:
    
    Two workstations will be offered.  One has a gray-scale graphics
    system, 4Meg RAM, 40Meg disk, and a price of $5000 (discounted
    to $3000 for educational institutions).  The other has color
    graphics, 8Meg RAM, 200Meg disk, and a price of $9000 ($6000
    discount).  Both displays are 1280x960.  The workstation box
    is rumored to be black.  An inhouse-developed DislpayPostscript
    will be available.  The bus is a proprietary bus.  Other items
    include a 1.44Meg 3.5 inch floppy, a fax modem, ethernet, scsi
    port with DMA, serial and parallel ports, a stereo sound
    processor (a DSP chip from Motorola), a midi port, a Un*x O/S
    with many Mac-style extensions, and an optional Pixar graphics
    coprocessor.  These workstations are due to be released 1st
    quarter 1988.

    I also heard that Sun is working on a "NeXT-KILLER".

    It looks like reasonably-priced (i.e. about the cost of a fully-
    loaded PC), high-performance, Unix-based workstations are almost
    here.
        
    Note that I have no "official" source for any of this
    information and NONE of it may actually be true.

    Thanks to all who responded.

    Brink

moreno@CS.UCLA.EDU (02/09/88)

This is for a friend who can't get his machine to post!!
Please reply to him.

In article <oW2U3Xy00UidYUw0HP@andrew.cmu.edu> hs0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hugh Brinkley Sprunt) writes:
>
>    Two workstations will be offered.  One has a gray-scale graphics
>    system, 4Meg RAM, 40Meg disk, and a price of $5000 (discounted
>    to $3000 for educational institutions).  The other has color
>    graphics, 8Meg RAM, 200Meg disk, and a price of $9000 ($6000
>    discount).  Both displays are 1280x960.  The workstation box
>    is rumored to be black.  An inhouse-developed DislpayPostscript
>    will be available.  The bus is a proprietary bus.  Other items
>    include a 1.44Meg 3.5 inch floppy, a fax modem, ethernet, scsi
>    port with DMA, serial and parallel ports, a stereo sound
>    processor (a DSP chip from Motorola), a midi port, a Un*x O/S
>    with many Mac-style extensions, and an optional Pixar graphics
>    coprocessor.  These workstations are due to be released 1st
>    quarter 1988.
>

That does not say much about the performance of both machines.
Here are a few questions that you may have an answer to:

	-What kind of processor do they use (running at ? MHz)?
	-I assume that they use a cache, if so what's its size 
	 and speed (any wait states?).
	-Any performance numbers? MIPS, benchmarks?
	-Can you add a floating point coprocessor?

					Marc Tremblay
					marc@CS.UCLA.EDU
					...!(ihnp4,ucbvax)!ucla-cs!marc
					Computer Science Department, UCLA

daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (02/10/88)

in article <oW2U3Xy00UidYUw0HP@andrew.cmu.edu>, hs0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hugh Brinkley Sprunt) says:

> These workstations are due to be released 1st quarter 1988.

Anyone maybe happen to notice what quarter it is, 1988.  Sure they don't mean
1Q89?

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mdr@reed.UUCP (Mike Rutenberg) (02/11/88)

My understanding is that the machine does have a DSP in it.  Julius
Smith, with a Standford computer music background, works at NeXT and I
think is in charge of the sound stuff (YEA!!! for that I do think).

My understanding is that the DSP in machine can be used for a variety
of things.  Once you have it there, you can program it to do music, to
do scientific calculations (fast!), and to be a modem for dialing up to
other systems or connecting to FAX machines.

I am really kindof looking forward to the machine.  While I don't know
if it will be all that much faster than the rest of the world when it
is actually delivered, NeXT has no established base requiring
compatibility with earlier machines, and I think it is going to be a
(gasp) FUN machine.  I would really like one (or so I think now).

Mike

henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/19/88)

> > These workstations are due to be released 1st quarter 1988.
> 
> Anyone maybe happen to notice what quarter it is, 1988...

Oh, come now.  Surely anyone who has been reading this group for any length
of time knows that "1Q88" means "4:55 PM 31 March 1988", at the earliest!
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