snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy T. Beagle) (11/10/88)
In article <360@auspex.UUCP> guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes: |>Yep, SUN keeps making liars out of the people who say that the CPU |>has ceased to be a bottleneck. :-) | |s/the CPU/memory - most of the slowness I've seen on Suns has been due |to paging. Yes, but what is the paging due to? _____ /_____\ Snoopy /_______\ |___| tektronix!tekecs!sopwith!snoopy |___| sun!nosun!illian!sopwith!snoopy
guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) (11/11/88)
>|>Yep, SUN keeps making liars out of the people who say that the CPU >|>has ceased to be a bottleneck. :-) >| >|s/the CPU/memory - most of the slowness I've seen on Suns has been due >|to paging. > >Yes, but what is the paging due to? Big software. What did you expect - paging due to a slow CPU?
c60a-1cu@web-1b.berkeley.edu (Drew Dean) (11/12/88)
In article <424@auspex.UUCP> guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes: > >|s/the CPU/memory - most of the slowness I've seen on Suns has been due > >|to paging. > > > >Yes, but what is the paging due to? > >Big software. What did you expect - paging due to a slow CPU? I/O bandwidth is the next workstation frontier...The Suns in the undergraduate labs around here often end up being used in a timesharing mode, and when the system gets busy (we have 60 Sun 3/50's on 4 fileservers), I've waited 7 minutes (and then given up), to get a login prompt from X Windows....Now each 3/50 is (for integer operations) about as fast as a Vax 11/780 (note: I said about...I mean anywhere from roughly .6 - 1.8 times as fast). That's still plenty of CPU -- but everything goes over the Ethernet...just not enough bandwidth....If there was money to put a 40Mb SCSI drive on each 3/50 (for paging and common programs), I think that we'd see a large speedup when the load gets up..... Drew Dean Internet: c60a-1cu@web.berkeley.edu UUCP: ...!ucbvax!web!c60a-1cu FROM Disclaimers IMPORT StandardDisclaimer;
deraadt@dataspan.UUCP (Theo De Raadt) (11/20/88)
In article <424@auspex.UUCP>, guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes: > > >|>Yep, SUN keeps making liars out of the people who say that the CPU > >|>has ceased to be a bottleneck. :-) > >| > >|s/the CPU/memory - most of the slowness I've seen on Suns has been due > >|to paging. > > > >Yes, but what is the paging due to? > > Big software. What did you expect - paging due to a slow CPU? Ok, my turn :-) Ok, so now we need SISC - "Small-Instruction Set computers"... great. No really, a lot of instruction sets chew up memory too fast. Gee, I guess one way to make the code smaller, is to use a CISC? <tdr. -- _____ _ ----------------------------------- / / / / \ _ _ /_/_ Theo de Raadt: (403) 289-4620 / /_ _ ___ __/_ /__/ _\ _\ __/ / DATASPAN / / /</_(_) (_/</_/ \_(_/\(_/\(_/_(_/ ..!alberta!calgary!dataspan!deraadt