[comp.arch] 68070 board

despoix@imag.imag.fr (Frederic DESPOIX) (01/18/89)

		In mid 1986, there had been articles about some kind of a
	monochip called 68070, done by RTC-signetics, with :

		CPU 68010 + MMU 68910 +
		2 DMAC 68430 +
		1 ACIA 2641 + timer 68230 +
		bus I2C interface (100 Kb)

	Do you know of any firm or lab which have done an evaluation board or a
	small computer with this device ?

articles are :
	electronic design, May 1, 1986, page 229
	minis et micros (french magazine) No 256

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 DESPOIX Frederic,				despoix@imag.fr
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stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) (01/28/89)

In article <4213@imag.imag.fr> despoix@imag.imag.fr (Frederic DESPOIX) writes:
>
>		In mid 1986, there had been articles about some kind of a
>	monochip called 68070, done by RTC-signetics, with :
>
>		CPU + MMU + 2 DMAC + 1 ACIA + timer + bus I2C interface (100 Kb)
(editted)

Does anyone
know when
Motorola
will announce
their chip
like this?

Steve Ligett       steve.ligett@dartmouth.edu or
(decvax harvard linus true)!dartvax!steve.ligett

jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) (01/28/89)

stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu 
> Does anyone know when Motorola will announce their [68070-like highly 
> integrated cpu]

Never.  I spoke with the designer of the 68070 and he told me that Motorola
is totally uninterested in the 68000 market now, and prefers to concentrate 
on the 68030/88000 style ultra-high performance CPU's.  They just aren't 
interested in 68k style controllers for toasters and microwave ovens.


Jonathan A. Chandross
ARPA: jac@paul.rutgers.edu
UUCP: rutgers!jac@paul.rutgers.edu

hunter@oakhill.UUCP (Hunter Scales) (01/29/89)

In article <Jan.27.21.54.49.1989.14066@paul.rutgers.edu> jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) writes:
>stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu 
>> Does anyone know when Motorola will announce their [68070-like highly 
>> integrated cpu]
>
>Never.  I spoke with the designer of the 68070 and he told me that Motorola
>is totally uninterested in the 68000 market now, and prefers to concentrate 
>on the 68030/88000 style ultra-high performance CPU's.  They just aren't 
>interested in 68k style controllers for toasters and microwave ovens.
>
>
>Jonathan A. Chandross
>ARPA: jac@paul.rutgers.edu
>UUCP: rutgers!jac@paul.rutgers.edu

	This is not true.  We have a very large design program that we
	call CORES which is basically a CMOS 68000 surrounded by various
	standard functions: DMAC, DRAM controller, timers, chip selects/
	interrupt controllers *and* ASIC gates.  We fully intend to 
	explore the higer end controller market (from low end laser printers
	to VCRs etc -- not toasters).  the 68070 was not picked up
	by Moto because it does not have the performance needed for
	some of these applications.  The 68070 is not a 68k inside,
	it only has one 32-bit ALU that is double pumped.  Take a 
	look at the instruction timing versus the real 68k.

-- 
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kirkl@oakhill.UUCP (Kirk Livingston) (01/30/89)

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In article <Jan.27.21.54.49.1989.14066@paul.rutgers.edu>
jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) writes:
> (stuff deleted)
>> Does anyone know when Motorola will announce their [68070-like highly 
>> integrated cpu]
>
>Never.  I spoke with the designer of the 68070 and he told me that Motorola
>is totally uninterested in the 68000 market now, and prefers to concentrate 
>on the 68030/88000 style ultra-high performance CPU's.
>
>
>Jonathan A. Chandross

I think it would be a much better to ask a 
Motorola sales or marketing representative rather than 
an unbiased :-) designer of the 68070.

mikes@oakhill.UUCP (Mike Schultz) (01/31/89)

In article <Jan.27.21.54.49.1989.14066@paul.rutgers.edu> jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) writes:
>
>I spoke with the designer of the 68070 and he told me that Motorola
>is totally uninterested in the 68000 market now, and prefers to concentrate 
>on the 68030/88000 style ultra-high performance CPU's.  They just aren't 
>interested in 68k style controllers for toasters and microwave ovens.

Humm.  News to me.  I guess I better tell the circuit designer next to me to
find a new job.  :-)

Mike Schultz
Motorola, Inc.
Speaking for Motorola is not in my job description, but speaking for me is!

tomj@oakhill.UUCP (Tom Johnson) (02/01/89)

In article <Jan.27.21.54.49.1989.14066@paul.rutgers.edu> jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) writes:
>stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu 
>> Does anyone know when Motorola will announce their [68070-like highly 
>> integrated cpu]
>
>Never.  I spoke with the designer of the 68070 and he told me that Motorola
>is totally uninterested in the 68000 market now, and prefers to concentrate 
>on the 68030/88000 style ultra-high performance CPU's.  They just aren't 
>interested in 68k style controllers for toasters and microwave ovens.
>
>
>Jonathan A. Chandross
>ARPA: jac@paul.rutgers.edu
>UUCP: rutgers!jac@paul.rutgers.edu

With all due respect to whomever it was you talked to: Motorola has absolutely
no intention of dismissing the MILLIONS of 68000's it sells.  You should
be hearing something in the (relatively) near future about Motorla's plans
along the lines of the 68070.

tomj@oakhill
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