dlr@daver.UU.NET (Dave Rand) (12/20/89)
Does anyone know the die size and technology used on the 80960KA and
80960KB parts?
As well, is there any public information available on the 16-bit bus
version of the 960 series parts?
Thanks in advance!
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Dave Rand
{pyramid|hoptoad|sun|vsi1}!daver!dlr Internet: dlr%daver@uunet.uu.netdlr@daver.UU.NET (Dave Rand) (12/22/89)
In article <1989Dec20.014428.9785@daver.UU.NET> dlr@daver.UU.NET (Dave Rand) writes: >Does anyone know the die size and technology used on the 80960KA and >80960KB parts? Well - the die size is 400x400, in case anyone is interested. No one replied, so we cracked one open to have a peek. The pads are all on one corner of the die (strange, just like the pinout :-), and they appear to use a multi-layer assembly to carry the signals to the external PGA pins. The die looks packed, with features right to the edge where there are not pads. I assume that it is 1.2 micro geometry, but we haven't checked this yet. If anyone has more information, please let me know. Wonder if this voids the warranty? -- Dave Rand {pyramid|hoptoad|sun|vsi1}!daver!dlr Internet: dlr%daver@uunet.uu.net
mslater@cup.portal.com (Michael Z Slater) (12/23/89)
>>Does anyone know the die size and technology used on the 80960KA and >>80960KB parts? > >Well - the die size is 400x400, in case anyone is interested. No one >replied, so we cracked one open to have a peek. The pads are all >on one corner of the die (strange, just like the pinout :-), and they >appear to use a multi-layer assembly to carry the signals to the >external PGA pins. The die looks packed, with features right to >the edge where there are not pads. I assume that it is 1.2 micro >geometry, but we haven't checked this yet. If anyone has more >information, please let me know. My notes say 350,000 transistors. I assume this is what is actually on the chip, which is much more than it takes to implement the specified KA/KB functions. Even chips sold as KA's include not only the KB and MC functions, but also stuff for BiiN that has never been documented by Intel for their customers. The real question of interest is "how many transistors would it take to implement a 960KA" -- assuming that no FPU, MMU, etc was included. Michael Slater, Microprocessor Report mslater@cup.portal.com 550 California Ave., Suite 320, Palo Alto, CA 94306 415/494-2677 fax: 415/494-3718