brett@cayman.amd.com (Brett Stewart) (03/20/90)
The following information is the text of a product announcement concerning the use of a RISC processor, the Am29000, in new Mac graphic solutions from Apple. Many people feel such announcements are inappropriate for the net, while others feel that such announcements are emminently net-worthy. If you are among those who object to product-related postings, please type 'q' to exit the pager without viewing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Best Regards; Brett Stewart Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 1-512-462-5321 FAX 5900 E. Ben White Blvd MS561 1-512-462-4336 Telephone Austin, Texas 78741 AMD's RISC PROCESSOR USED IN NEW GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR CARD FROM APPLE --- Am29000 helps make QuickDraw environment up to 30 times faster --- SUNNYVALE, CA -- MARCH 19, 1990 -- Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. today announced that its Am2000(tm) 32-BIT RISC microprocessor is integrated into Apple Computer Inc.'s new high-performance graphics display card being announced today. Apple's Macintosh Display Card 8*24 GC, which uses the Am29000, is the first significant use of a RISC (reduced instruction set computer) microprocessor in a high-volume personal computer application. The Macintosh Display Card 8*24 GC is a graphics coprocessor and 24-bit video card that accelerates the responsiveness of all Macintosh applications -- especially graphics-intensive ones. It is compatible with all modular Macintosh(r) computers (II, IIx, IIcx, IIci, IIfx). "Apple's use of the Am29000 in their new graphics card is evidence of the value RISC technology can bring to the personal computer market in a non-CPU application," said Subodh Toprani, director of marketing for AMD's embedded processor division. "It is an excellent example of how CISC (complex instruction set computer) and RISC can work together in today's office environment and strong confirmation of our embedded processor strategy." The Macintosh Display Card 8*24 GC increases graphics performance by implementing the fast coprocessing capabilities of a dedicated Am29000. It supports full 24-bit true color on the AppleColor High-Resolution RGB Monitor and full 256-level true gray scale on all Apple(r) displays. The new apple card takes advantage of the power of the high-performance Am29000 (29K(tm)) to work in conjunction with the system's central processing unit (CPU). This allows the CPU to work on other tasks while the 29K-based card executes graphics commands. Depending on the application, the card accelerates the Macintosh computer's QuickDraw-based graphics by five to 30 times over typical Macintosh drawing speeds. Additionally, the card will be able to incorporate new graphics innovations as they become available because the Am29000 processor is initialized through a QuickDraw(tm) software file. The GC card will be able to take advantage of future QuickDraw enhancements simply by replacing the file. "From the beginning, our objective for our new display cards has been to raise the standard of graphics on the Macintosh. The GC card's combination of graphics acceleration and 24-bit color enables Macintosh users to work as easily with photo-quality images as with black and white images in many different types of applications," said Mark Gonzales, graphics hardware product manager at Apple, "We chose to use the Am29000 because it can be programmed to do a great many different things and do them quickly. The general purpose processing capabilities of the Am29000 were key to achieving our goal of extending the capabilities of Macintosh users." "Apple has always been the leader and innovator in the world of graphics," said Toprani, "We are pleased that AMD and the 29k can play a part in thier continuing efforts to bring increased levels of performance to the Macintosh environment." AMD has targeted the 29k at the embedded systems market -- which includes applications such as graphics, networking, laser printers and scanners -- and has recorded more that 200 design wins to date. Embedded processors are used to augment the processing capabilities of central processors by providing shared processing power for specific applications. For example, a networked office environment could utilize three embedded processors -- one each as a network controller, graphics controller and laser printer controller -- to support the single CPU System. According to recent estimates from In-Stat, a market research firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona, the embedded systems market for 32-bit RISC microporcessors will comprise 80 percent of the entire 32-bit RISC market in 1992. The 29K family of products - 16, 20, 25, and 33MHz processors -- and the Am29005, a low-end version of the Am29000, give users the ability to develop systems that range in performance from six to 25 MIPS. The low price of the processor combined with its ability to interface to low-cost memory devices makes it attractive for cost-sensitive consumer electronic applications like graphics and laser printers. Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. one of the five largest U.S. - based manufacturers of integrated circuits, produces microprocessors and related peripherals, memories, programmble logic devices and circuits for telecommunications, office automation and networking applications. AMD has sales offices worldwide, and has manufacturing facilities in Sunnyvale and Santa Clara, California; Austin, Texas; Atsugi, Japan; Penang, Malaysia; Singaproe; Bangkok; Thailand; and Basingstoke, England. In its fiscal year ended December 31, 1989, AMD reported sales of more than $1.1 billion. ### Readers may call John Peskuric at (512)462-5226 for more information. Am29000 and 29K are trademarks of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Apple and Macintosh are registered trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. QuickDraw is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. Best Regards; Brett Stewart Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 1-512-462-5321 FAX 5900 E. Ben White Blvd MS561 1-512-462-4336 Telephone Austin, Texas 78741
nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu (03/21/90)
In article <29560@amdcad.AMD.COM> brett@cayman.AMD.COM (Brett Stewart) writes: >The following information is the text of a product announcement >concerning the use of a RISC processor, the Am29000, in new Mac >graphic solutions from Apple. > [Stuff Deleted] > >The new apple card takes advantage of the power of the >high-performance Am29000 (29K(tm)) to work in conjunction with the >system's central processing unit (CPU). This allows the CPU to work >on other tasks while the 29K-based card executes graphics commands. >Depending on the application, the card accelerates the Macintosh >computer's QuickDraw-based graphics by five to 30 times over typical >Macintosh drawing speeds. Additionally, the card will be able to >incorporate new graphics innovations as they become available because >the Am29000 processor is initialized through a QuickDraw(tm) software >file. The GC card will be able to take advantage of future QuickDraw >enhancements simply by replacing the file. > How about using the 29K for some non-display work? I know of a guy who is trying to use the Amiga's blitter to encode bytes for a custom floppy disk format. [ From a poor student, longing for a Yarc NuSuper. :-)] [Stuff Deleted] So are there any wait states in the IIfx? When will the logic board upgrade be available? A Cdn newspaper, well not a newspaper really - it's the Toronto Sun :-), quotes about $4500 Cdn for the upgrade. From a $2999 U.S. list price. Ouch! From the Mac IIfx press release: What are Mac IIfx-specific DRAMs? Are they just faster? What speed SIMMs(I assume SIMMs are still being used) should one stick into a IIfx? The new keyboard: Is it available separately? Will it replace the current extended keyboard? What's the SCSI transfer rate now? Are ROMS soldered in or are they SIMMs? Does the IIfx have the IIci's built-in video (from the press release, it looks like a no)? Have you guys gone back to the heavier balls in the mice or are they still light as a feather (so to speak)? Video cards press release: Re: Apple Convolution: Is this NTSC output direct from the video card? The press release talks about the VRAM kit giving the 4.8 video card true color and true gray scale of the 8.24. Does this mean 24-bit colour? How about responses from people who actually have IIfx's? These product announcements address some of the more common complaints I've had w.r.t. Apple's heavy-duty mutli-media campaign. The 8.24 GC video card can only help improve the Mac's multimedia performance. Now, if only the sound were just as good...(it's available but not easily accessible). Just extremely curious, Johnny Lee jlee4@orchid.waterloo.edu or nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu
dwb@archer.apple.com (David W. Berry) (03/22/90)
In article <22297@watdragon.waterloo.edu> nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu () writes: >So are there any wait states in the IIfx? Nope. Not from the cache, I don't know about main store. >From the Mac IIfx press release: >What are Mac IIfx-specific DRAMs? Are they just faster? What speed >SIMMs(I assume SIMMs are still being used) should one stick into a IIfx? >The new keyboard: >Is it available separately? Will it replace the current extended keyboard? I'm pretty sure they are the same 80 ns, fast page mode simms required by the Mac IIci > >What's the SCSI transfer rate now? Up to 30 mbit/sec >Are ROMS soldered in or are they SIMMs? Same rom simms as on the IIci >Does the IIfx have the IIci's built-in video (from the press >release, it looks like a no)? Nope. >The press release talks about the VRAM kit giving >the 4.8 video card true color and true gray scale of the 8.24. >Does this mean 24-bit colour? Yes. David W. Berry A/UX Toolbox Engineer dwb@apple.com
baum@Apple.COM (Allen J. Baum) (03/22/90)
[] >In article <7324@goofy.Apple.COM> dwb@archer.apple.com (David W. Berry) writes: >>From the Mac IIfx press release: >>What are Mac IIfx-specific DRAMs? Are they just faster? What speed >>SIMMs(I assume SIMMs are still being used) should one stick into a IIfx? > I'm pretty sure they are the same 80 ns, fast page mode > simms required by the Mac IIci Actually, I believe the SIMMs are non-standard, w/64 pins. The reason for this has something to do with write-buffering. -- baum@apple.com (408)974-3385 {decwrl,hplabs}!amdahl!apple!baum
jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway Jr.) (03/22/90)
In article <7324@goofy.Apple.COM> dwb@archer.apple.com (David W. Berry) writes: >In article <22297@watdragon.waterloo.edu> nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu () writes: >>So are there any wait states in the IIfx? > Nope. Not from the cache, I don't know about main store. > >>From the Mac IIfx press release: >>What are Mac IIfx-specific DRAMs? Are they just faster? What speed >>SIMMs(I assume SIMMs are still being used) should one stick into a IIfx? >>The new keyboard: >>Is it available separately? Will it replace the current extended keyboard? > I'm pretty sure they are the same 80 ns, fast page mode > simms required by the Mac IIci From March AppleDirect page 9 "the IIfx use 64 pin DRAM SIMMS to allow ** this [dump and run] concurrent operation". I assume the IIci uses standard 30 pin SIMMS like the Mac II, IIx, and IIcx. They are 80ns page mode. -jrg -- internet jrg@apple.com John R. Galloway, Jr. applelink d3413 CEO..receptionist human (408) 259-2490 Galloway Research These are my views, NOT Apple's, I am a GUEST here, not an employee!!
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (03/22/90)
After looking at the product blurb with a photo of the motherboard, I can assure you the SIMMs in the IIfx are 64 pinners. I think it has to do with the fact that the previous SIMMs don't have enough pins to go above 4 Megs, and they want the IIfx to handle 16 meg SIMMs when they come out. Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
lee@mrmoose.wbst128.xerox.com (Lee Moore) (03/23/90)
In article <7324@goofy.Apple.COM> dwb@archer.apple.com (David W. Berry) writes: >In article <22297@watdragon.waterloo.edu> nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu () writes: >>From the Mac IIfx press release: >>What are Mac IIfx-specific DRAMs? Are they just faster? What speed >>SIMMs(I assume SIMMs are still being used) should one stick into a IIfx? According to "Apple Direct", March 1990, page 11, upper right hand corner: "Are you wondering whether or not your current SIMMs will work in the Macintosh IIfx? Unfortuately, the answer is definitive no. The new SIMM design has separate RAM data input and output lines; this allows the memory to run much faster (see main text), but it also necessitates a new physical design to add the extra lines to the connector." "The Macintosh IIfx works only with 1-Mbit or higher chips. This means that the computer cannot contain odd memory configuratoins such as 1, 2, and 5MB, all of which use the less-dense 256-Kbit chips." Lee Moore -- Xerox Webster Research Center -- +1 716 422 2496 UUCP: {allegra, cornell, decvax, rutgers}!rochester!rocksanne!lee Arpa Internet: Moore.Wbst128@Xerox.Com
aperez@cvbnet.UUCP (Arturo Perez x6739) (03/23/90)
From article <22297@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, by nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu: > In article <29560@amdcad.AMD.COM> brett@cayman.AMD.COM (Brett Stewart) writes: >>The following information is the text of a product announcement >>concerning the use of a RISC processor, the Am29000, in new Mac >>graphic solutions from Apple. >> > [Stuff Deleted] >> >>The new apple card takes advantage of the power of the >>high-performance Am29000 (29K(tm)) to work in conjunction with the >>system's central processing unit (CPU). This allows the CPU to work >>on other tasks while the 29K-based card executes graphics commands. Are all of the new Apple graphics cards Risc based? What are the differences amonst them? Do they replace the video card I have or do I still need it? If I buy the "weakest", "cheapest" or whatever-you-want-to-call-it card can I upgrade it all the way to the whiz-bangiest? What mail order houses are stocking these things? Arturo Perez ComputerVision, a division of Prime aperez@cvbnet.prime.com Too much information, like a bullet through my brain -- The Police
baum@Apple.COM (Allen J. Baum) (03/23/90)
[] >In article <1990Mar22.052024.236@spectre.ccsf.caltech.edu> toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes: >After looking at the product blurb with a photo of the motherboard, I can >assure you the SIMMs in the IIfx are 64 pinners. > >I think it has to do with the fact that the previous SIMMs don't have enough >pins to go above 4 Megs, and they want the IIfx to handle 16 meg SIMMs when >they come out. > All 30-pin simms have 12 address bits, which allow 16Meg chips. The 64 pinners allow separate data-in & out lines, for dummp&run writes -- baum@apple.com (408)974-3385 {decwrl,hplabs}!amdahl!apple!baum