werner@aecom.UUCP (05/27/87)
I knew I should have stopped at saying that the posting looked like it came right out of the National Enquirer. After all, the whole idea of breeding slaves went out of style over a hundred years ago. However, I added a possible biological objection, knowing full well about Donkeys and Mules, Chick-Quail Hybrids, etc., but said it anyway. Well, I'm happy to have provided catharsis to anyone who ever wanted to catch me in a slip, not so much of fact, but of judgement. Now, then, don't you all feel better? Continue with the philosophical implications of this, including the question: "Who would bear the hybrid child?" It probably would have to be human, given the cranial constraints. Would you volunteer? Or then again, maybe just drop it -- Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) !philabs!aecom!werner (1935-14E Eastchester Rd., Bronx NY 10461, 212-931-2517) "I never knew there was anything wrong with me till I met Dr. Hackenbush."
pell@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Anthony Pelletier) (05/27/87)
(Craig Werner) writes: > > I knew I should have stopped at saying that the posting looked >like it came right out of the National Enquirer. After all, the whole idea >of breeding slaves went out of style over a hundred years ago. However, >I added a possible biological objection, knowing full well about Donkeys >and Mules, Chick-Quail Hybrids, etc., but said it anyway. > >-- > Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) Craig, if you mean third year student, say third year student. (note change, I have recently learned from a posting in soc.women that I was incorrect in my original estimate. mea culpa.) I don't think I took nearly so much pleasure pointing out how stupid your statement was as I did imagining the response you would would write to somehow make it seem like you knew all along that un-equal chromosome number was no barrier to hybrids. I also figured you would add a list of facts to make the point that you, in fact, know more about such hybrids than the rest of us. I must say, you did not disappoint me. Perhaps next time we on the net should take bets as to what wonderfully pompous and pedantic response you will give. A.J.P. (I will get a real job when I'm good and ready! (or when they stop paying me to be a student))
pell@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Anthony Pelletier) (05/28/87)
(Craig Werner) writes: > > I knew I should have stopped at saying that the posting looked >like it came right out of the National Enquirer. After all, the whole idea >of breeding slaves went out of style over a hundred years ago. However, >I added a possible biological objection, knowing full well about Donkeys >and Mules, Chick-Quail Hybrids, etc., but said it anyway. >-- > Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) I almost forgot (okay, I did forget--temporarily) to say that the chick-quail thing you mention (under the heading of "impress everyone with the examples I know") is a chimera, made by manipulating embyos. It is not a hybrid at all. Each cell has only chick or only quail DNA. Therefore it is an irrelevent example from the standpoint of pairing chromosomes (and hence, to the question of aneuploidy). You see Craig, it is not so much catching you in a mistake that is hard so much as it is to choose from among the mistakes and absurdities (or to remember them) in writing a response. A.J.P.(I've forgotten what degrees I've earned--and never count the ones I plan to earn) P.S. Craig tells us in soc.women that the reason he signs "MD/PhD '91" is that people are always interested in hearing when he graduates. I think I can speak for the rest of the group when I say the burning interest we all surely felt has been quelled. Since, as you say, that was your only reason for including it, you can now feel comfortable omitting it.
johnmill@mmintl.UUCP (06/10/87)
In article <1089@aecom.YU.EDU> werner@aecom.YU.EDU (Craig Werner) writes: >the question: "Who would bear the hybrid child?" It probably would >have to be human, given the cranial constraints. Would you volunteer? Nah. In this country, just do a C-section. :-) After all, wouldn't this be an example of a mixed-race marriage? Sort of? >Or then again, maybe just drop it Preferably on its head. I recently read that man and gorilla ought to be able to cross naturally, without the aid of artificial insemination. One wonders, however, what self- respecting gorilla would mate with a human. I myself wouldn't care to be involved in an attempted rape! As an aside, humans have a larger penis than any ape, including the gorilla. I wonder what this says about human evolution? --johnmill