[sci.bio] Fruit Flys

richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (11/12/88)

I'm having a problem with fruit flies.

Apparantly they are a wonderfull food for tropical fish, so I set
about recently trying to establish some sort of practical method
of culturing them.

What I have so far is: a large tupperware container in which I left
about 3 dozen grapes. It's in an office at work where nobody will
notice, inside a book case with glass doors.

I put the grapes there about 3 - 4 weeks ago, and have been noticing
a small increase in the number of fruit flies.

I checked it today, and we seem to have quite a crop.

Now, the problem is, how do I get them into an aquarium. My first thought
was to try to train them. It didnt take long to figure out this wasn't
working. Unruley buggers, fruit flies.

My next attempt was to cover the tupperware bowl and place a jar
next to it with a grape in it. Hopefully they would not be able to 
get back in the tupperware container and would all congregate in the
jar, which I could quickly close. 

Once I have them in a jar, they're as good as dinner, as apparantly
all you do is add a bit of water, shake the jar up, and pour it in 
an aquarium. Thus, you dont want a lot of grape goop in the jar.

At any rate, they ignored the jar completely and all snuck back into
the tupperware container.

So, my questions:


	What is it they are attracted to ? There's an amyl acetate
	kind of smell coming from the grape slush. Is this what does
	it ?

	DO any of you peple raise fruit flies as part of your jobs ?
	Surely you have a better method than this.

	I've heard a bit about the wingless drosphilia, but I understand
	that there are two strains - a warm one and a cold one and
	the warm one regains it's wings above 70 F. Not much use.
	They CAN'T go in the fridge. I'm still in trouble about that
	little incident with the worms and the spanish rice.

	Which begs the question, how do they regain their wings ?
	Is this a mutation that ``fixes'' itself ?

A prompts response would be most appreciated, as, judging from the number
of pupae in and around the container, there are going to be a LOT of
flies when I go into work monday.

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hes@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Henry Schaffer) (11/13/88)

  First suggestion is that you visit someone who raises fruit
flies (Drosophila.)  There is much that is easier to see than to
have described in writing.  While raising the flies on mashed
fermenting fruit can work, it is somewhat harder to handle than
when solid media is used.  The flies are attracted to the
fermenting fruit - and the fermentation is particularly attractive.
(to flies, that is.)

  I suggest that aspiration (by mouth) is a fairly efficient way
of collecting them.  Let me see if I can describe the apparatus -
Take a small bottle (1/2 pint or less) with a sturdy top, e.g. a
cork or rubber stopper.  Pierce it with two holes to take glass
tubing.  At the outside of the bottle connect a length of rubber
tubing to each glass tubing and then end with another length of
glass tubing.  One of these is perhaps 8" long and used to collect
the flies, and the other is shorter, and you place it in your 
mouth and suck on it to collect flies.  On the inside of the bottle
side of the cork, the glass tubing going to the fly collecting end
is long enough to reach close to the bottle bottom.  The other
tubing is shorter and its end is covered with cheese cloth (to
keep flies and other stuff from going into your mouth.)

  (All glass tubing ends should be flame polished for safety
reasons.  Also the collecting end works better if it is cut at
an angle.)

  Put the cork on the bottle, the mouth piece in your mouth, and
the collecting end through a hole in the culture container top
(which can normally be closed with a tuft of absorbent cotton)
Then put the end of the glass tubing near a fly or group of flies
and such sharply and "vacuum" them up.  You end up with the flies
in a dry clean bottle.  (The bottle can also be a vial, and ones
about the size of a shotgun shell - no smaller than 16 ga. :-)
work well.)

  With solid food, the whole culture container can be inverted
over an empty bottle and the two of them together tapped on a
table, knocking the flies into the lower bottle.  However, that
is another topic.

--henry schaffer

meo@stiatl.UUCP (Miles O'Neal) (11/14/88)

In article <8648@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
>I'm having a problem with fruit flies.
...
>A prompts response would be most appreciated, as, judging from the number
>of pupae in and around the container, there are going to be a LOT of
>flies when I go into work monday.

Obviously you never heard about Ignorantzi Casserole's
work with fruit flies. This exact experiment was performed
exactly ONCE in all of recorded history, and resulted in:

a wine smell that brought connoiseurs and lushes alike from
over 50 Km away on a windy day,

the only recorded 73 kg goldfish on record, and

the world's worst recorded  plague of fruit flies,
which, fortunately for southern Italy, were blown across
the Med into North Africa, where they turned the
beautiful, lush "cradle of civilization" into the
humongous desert it is today.

Oh yeah, some of the flies mutated (evolved? devolved?
were undivinely refashioned?) into very sick facsimiles
(technology even then!) of men, who are alive even today
in that corner of the world - the most prominent going
under the human-names of Khadaffy and Arafart.

*I'm* getting my family's tickets to Iceland RIGHT NOW!

GOOD-BYE!

markk@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Mark Kimmerly) (11/15/88)

In article <8648@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
>
>I'm having a problem with fruit flies.
>
>Apparantly they are a wonderfull food for tropical fish, so I set
>about recently trying to establish some sort of practical method
>of culturing them.
>
>....
>
>	What is it they are attracted to ?

I can't give you any scientific answers,
but according to rumors, there's a woman
at work here who is supposed to be able to
attract flies just by uncrossing her legs.

I don't know how she does it, maybe she
just has a way with nature or something.

If you want, I can find out who it is and
send you a phone number or address.
-- 
Markk
(professional smart-ass)

markk@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Mark Kimmerly) (11/15/88)

A thousand pardons, please.

I meant for the previous response to go
only to talk.bizarre.  Apologies if I 
offended anyone.

(That's what I get for downing 5 cups of coffee before 10:00 am)
-- 
Markk
(professional smart-ass)

bgt@homxc.UUCP (B.TONGUE) (11/15/88)

-In article <1483@stiatl.UUCP>, meo@stiatl.UUCP (Miles O'Neal) writes:
-> In article <8648@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
-> >I'm having a problem with fruit flies.

Just remember folks,

Time flies like an arrow!
Fruit flies like a banana!
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jennifer@uokmax.UUCP (Moira K Nightfall) (11/16/88)

              The Fly

         - Karl Shapiro -

O hideous little bat, the size of snot,
With polyhedral eye and shabby clothes,
To populate the stinking cat you walk
The promontory of the dead man's nose,
Climb with the fine leg of a Duncan-Phyfe
     The smoking mountains of my food
        And in a comic mood
     In mid-air take to bed a wife.

Riding and riding with your filth of hair
On gluey foot or wing, forever coy,
Hot from the compost and green sweet decay,
Sounding your buzzer like an urchin toy --
You dot all whiteness with diminutive stool,
     In the tight belly of the dead
        Burrow with hungry head
     And inlay maggots like a jewel.

At your approach the great horse stomps and paws
Bringing the hurricane of his heavy tail;
Shod in disease you dare to kiss my hand
Which sweeps against you like an angry flail;
Still you return, return, trusting your wing
     To draw you from the hunter's reach
        That learns to kill to teach
     Disorder to the tinier thing.

My peace is your disaster. For your death
Children like spiders cup their pretty hands
And wives resort to chemistry of war.
In fens of sticky paper and quicksands
You glue yourself to death. Where you are stuck
     You struggle hideously and beg
        You amputate your leg
     Imbedded in the amber muck.

But I, a man, must swat you with my hate
Slap you across the air and crush your flight,
Must mangle with my shoe and smear your blood,
Expose your little guts pasty and white,
Knock your head sidewise like a drunkard's hat,
     Pin your wings under like a crow's
        Tear off your flimsy clothes
     And beat you as one beats a rat.

Then like Gargantua I stride among
The corpses strewn like raisins in the dust,
The broken bodies of the narrow dead
That catch the throat with fingers of disgust
I sweep. One gyrates like a top and falls
     And stunned, stone blind, and deaf
        Buzzes its frightful F
     And dies between three cannibals.

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greg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Nowak) (11/21/88)

In article <8648@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:

}I'm having a problem with fruit flies.

Is this related to any other problems you may hav-- never mind.

}Apparantly they are a wonderfull food for tropical fish, so I set
}about recently trying to establish some sort of practical method
}of culturing them.

Start slow, and not too heavy -- the Brandenburgs, maybe a little
Restoration comedy, Shelley, etc. Stay out of the 20th century untill
you consult winslow.

}What I have so far is: a large tupperware container in which I left
}about 3 dozen grapes. It's in an office at work where nobody will
}notice, inside a book case with glass doors.

It's a start, at least. 

}I put the grapes there about 3 - 4 weeks ago, and have been noticing
}a small increase in the number of fruit flies.
}I checked it today, and we seem to have quite a crop.

GOOD! With luck they can all share the same seat at the concerts.

}Once I have them in a jar, they're as good as dinner, as apparantly
}all you do is add a bit of water, shake the jar up, and pour it in 
}an aquarium. Thus, you dont want a lot of grape goop in the jar.

}At any rate, they ignored the jar completely and all snuck back into
}the tupperware container.

They'll congregate on bananas or banana peel. Why can't you just put
water in the tupperware? Am I missing something?

}	What is it they are attracted to ? There's an amyl acetate
}	kind of smell coming from the grape slush. Is this what does
}	it ?

You just have a nice personality. You eed them, you take them out, hy
shouldn't they be attracted to you?

}	DO any of you peple raise fruit flies as part of your jobs ?

[Note how Richard has subtly shifted his claim; we're now to believe
that he's being paid by Trailing Edge to raise flies.]

}	Surely you have a better method than this.

That's PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, buddy!

}	I've heard a bit about the wingless drosphilia, but I understand
}	that there are two strains - a warm one and a cold one and
}	the warm one regains it's wings above 70 F. Not much use.
}	They CAN'T go in the fridge. I'm still in trouble about that
}	little incident with the worms and the spanish rice.

They're not supposed to get that big -- if the mealworms are eating
your leftovers, contact CDC.


}A prompts response would be most appreciated, as, judging from the number
}of pupae in and around the container, there are going to be a LOT of
}flies when I go into work monday.


And they'll be MAD AS HELL.


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