[mod.os] Operating Systems Digest V1 #1

mod-os@sdcsvax.UUCP (01/04/87)

From: Darrell Long (The Moderator) <mod-os@sdcsvax.uucp>


Operating Systems Digest  Sat Jan  3 21:28:09 PST 1987  Volume 1 : Issue 1

Today's topics: Something from UNIX-WIZARDS to provoke discussion.
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From sdcsvax!hp-sdd!hplabs!nsc!unixprt!monkey Sat Jan  3 21:20:17 PST 1987

Now that System V, Release 3 has been available for 6 months, 
and many vendors are somewhere along the road to porting it to their
systems, how about some discussion on RFS.

Does it work?  How does it compare to NFS?  What transport providers 
are people using?  Is anyone going to produce a transport provider 
for re-sale to other computer vendors?  Will RFS or NFS become the
de-facto standard?

(NFS and 4.[23]BSD fanciers welcome in the discussion.)

Monkey Face - Uni-xperts, Milpitas, CA


From sdcsvax!hp-sdd!hplabs!hao!nbires!seismo!brl-adm!adm!black@ee.UCLA.EDU Sat Jan  3 21:22:07 PST 1987

> Now that System V, Release 3 has been available for 6 months, 
> and many vendors are somewhere along the road to porting it to their
> systems, how about some discussion on RFS.
> 
> (NFS and 4.[23]BSD fanciers welcome in the discussion.)
> 

A NFS fancier I am not....RFS sounds quite interesting.  I wonder if
it is *really* transparent: i.e., even to system admin. programs.

The reason that I ask is because Pyramid's NFS port definitely is not.
We have a 90x running the SV/4.2 dual port.  We also have a small (5
clients/1 server) Sun/3 network which of course runs NFS.  Unfortunately,
the cartridge tape on the Sun is slower than December molasses, so
when we got NFS for our Pyramid we thought, "Great, no more slow backups
on the Sun.  We'll just use the dump facility on the Pyramid."

Wrongo!  Dump tries to use the *raw* device and NFS just will not
cope with that.  Now I'm not bringing this up to prompt a huge 
flame along the lines of "of course you can't do that because
ba-blah ba-blah ba-blah-blah-blah!"  I don't *care* why it doesn't
work--I just know it doesn't.

How about RFS?  Is it really transparent or is this a word which will
be raped to death by ad-men in the next few years?


From sdcsvax!ucbvax!ulysses!ekrell Sat Jan  3 21:23:03 PST 1987

When you open a remote file in RFS, the remote machine does the open() and,
provided you have the right permissions, all works transparently. This works
for special files as well as regular ones.
-- 

Eduardo Krell                   AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill

{ihnp4,seismo,ucbvax}!ulysses!ekrell



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