jordan@ucb-vax.ARPA (Jordan Hayes) (10/30/86)
There are still a lot of people out there on the Internet trying to use ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU as a BITNET gateway ... pretty anti-social, if you ask me. Check your mailing lists and mailer configurations today. Thanks. /jordan
schoff@csv.rpi.edu (Martin Schoffstall) (10/30/86)
I don't know what INTERNET people use (we use wiscvm.wisc.edu) but I DO see BITNET people use violet.berkeley.edu when they want to mail to the INTERNET. Isn't this antisocial too? Marty
henry@garp.mit.edu (Henry Mensch) (10/30/86)
In article <5034@brl-smoke.ARPA> jordan@ucb-vax.ARPA (Jordan Hayes) writes: >There are still a lot of people out there on the Internet trying to use >ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU as a BITNET gateway ... For those who don't know, the bitnet gateway for the Internet is wiscvm.wisc.edu. This means that mail to bitnet users should be addressed as follows: user%bithost.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu An example: S19984%MITVMA.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Henry Mensch / <henry@athena.mit.edu> / ..!mit-eddie!mit-athena!henry
lhl@wisc-rsch.ARPA (L.H. Landweber) (11/02/86)
While it may anti-social to use bitnet/internet gateways other than wiscvm, it certainly is rational. Each weekday we fall behind hundreds of messages due to arpanet congestion. (We sit at one end of the most congested line in the Arpanet.) Most of the time these are cleared on the weekend, but if something goes wrong at that time, large numbers of messages may be lost (or returned to sender). This week i will send out an announcement that at some future date we will limit the number of copies of a single message that wiscvm will relay. We will expect list maintainers to contact someone on the other net to set up exploders. We have offers from some to help and details will be forthcoming. At present well over 50% of our traffic is due to mulitple copies from lists on both sides. Hopefully, the above change will fix or at least ease the current problem. Larry Landweber
pa@BRL.ARPA> (11/04/86)
> > There are still a lot of people out there on the Internet trying to use > ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU as a BITNET gateway ... pretty anti-social, > if you ask me. Check your mailing lists and mailer configurations > today. Thanks. There are lots of people that use BSMTP at UCBJADE (in BITNET) as a gateway, too. This is a relict of the fact that you sometimes get mail via that gate and can respond only thru that gate. If you use direct most .EDU stuff to WISCVM, you sometimes got non delivery reports that tell you something of unknown hosts. I do not know whether this is still true. Where is the "official announcement" of the WISCVM gateway? > > /jordan >
netinfo%jade.Berkeley.EDU@ucb-vax.ARPA (Postmaster + BITINFO) (11/07/86)
One of the things that can be done to reduce the amount of list mail going across the ARPANET/BITNET gateway to get the VM version of USENET news completed and distributed throughout BITNET/EARN/NETNORTH land. This would allow list mail to be reduced to one message going across the gateway. Only one message maximum needs to be sent across the gateway for each news article. Numbers of messages going across the gateway can be further reduced by using the batching feature of USENET news. Postmasters at sites running USENET news may want to take a look at list mail addressed to their site. Many ARPANET mailing lists are relayed into the USENET news system, and users at USENET news sites should not need to receive individual copies in addition to the USENET news copy. We can help reduce much of this extra traffic by identifying the USENET news group name of mailing lists in the INTEREST-GROUPS file(s) so users will know where in USENET news to find there favorite mailing list. Bill Wells