[net.nlang] yes, but are you moving your lips?

ecn-pa.haamu (07/25/82)

Let me comment on this impressive statistic:

	...children taught to read in a phonetic alphabet
	acquire 5th grade proficiency (by English standards) by
	the middle ov grade 2.

(I trust I need not attribute the quote.)

As a child I was pretty quick off the blocks; even without the aid of a
phonetic alphabet I reached "5th grade proficiency" a year or two early.  I
had a particular talent for translating a group of orthographic symbols
into what my elementary teachers (and, apparently, at least one
anthropology professor) believed was the essence of a word: its sound.

Unfortunately, I never put aside that talent.  Even today I still hear
every word inside my head as I read it, and I stumble along at about
250 words per minute.  The irony is that I was trained for this disability--
by people, however well-intentioned, who mistakenly thought reading ought
to be somehow phonetic.  And as we all know from reading this newsgroup,
the tradition lives on.

The process I use to read, called "sub-verbalization" (or something like
that) probably also afflicts most of you in one degree or another.  It
is precisely what speed-reading clinics try to drum out of you.  One of
these days I'm going to take one of their courses.  (The trouble is, I'm
still working my way through the brochures.)

So if what we want is a nation of 5th-grade-level readers, then I say
damn the torpedoes!  Let's get on with phonetic spelling reform!

Meanwhile, perhaps an entirely *non*-phonetic alphabet, while harder to
learn, would provide the greatest benefit to adults.

	-- Mark Raabe

wagner (07/27/82)

I found Mark Raabe's comments very interesting, but I am not 
sure I understood them completely, and I wish he would explain
himself in more detail if he has the time.  My understanding
was that speed-reading was much more related to a phenomenon
called "chunking", and the goal of speed-reading was to 
increase the average size of a chunk.  I am not sure how
pronouncing the words when you are chunking at that level
hurts anything.  But maybe I missed the point.
Chunking is a very interesting phenomenon.  I suggest you
look at "The Psychology of Computer Programming" by 
Weinberg - in the chapter on programming language design,
the section on compactness.  For the sake of continuity of
the newsgroup, I will try to explain briefly what chunking is
in a different context from Weinbergs.  If there are linguists
out there who know this material better than I, please rescue
me from my ignorant mistakes.
  When you start to read, the largest unit of information you
can handle is the letter.  You look at a letter, try to remember
what it is, and then say an appropriate sound (hard to do out
of context with the rest of the word, which is what started
this discussion, but lets leave that aside for a second).
Then you go on to the next letter. Finally you get to the end
of the word, and you have said a very letters, you rummage 
around in your mind for a word that can be mangled out of that
loose collection of sounds. (sorry, .-2s/very/few/)  Either
you guess right, or the person helping you gives you a hint.
  With more experience, you have all the letters down pat, and
you start to recognize common runs of letters (later you find
out that most of these are called syllables).  You recognize 
"th", "ph", "ough", etc, as having sound value quite independent
of the sound values of the individual letters.  You read faster
because, rather than doing a look-up per character, you are
doing a look-up per recognized dipthong(sp?) or syllable.
  Finally, you start to recognize whole words in one chunk.
Your eyes scan the word all at once, you look it up and recall
its pronunciation and meaning, all in one association.  There
will always be words so complex or rare or both, that we have
to piece them out (remember the first time you saw 
antidisestablishmentarianism?)
  Most of us recognize some short phrases (with respect to,
etc) as single chunks, but recognize the vast majority of
words one at a time.  When reading trashy novels, you can
probably chunk whole phrases, because you can anticipate
what sort of syrup phrases are going to be used, and the
vocabulary is seldom difficult.  You couldnt read a medical
journal at the same speed, because so much of the vocabulary
would be new (unless you do it all the time).
  My understanding was that speed reading was critically 
dependent on being able to chunk at larger granularity than
single words.  What is required is suppression of detail.
We made the other transitions from letter to syllable to 
word.  Why is the next transition harder?  I dont know.  Anyone
out there got any ideas?

This has been too long, sorry.  Didnt realize that it would 
take me so much to explain.  Hope I didnt bore you too much.

Michael Wagner, UTCS