[net.nlang] Rational Pronunciation

ARPAVAX:arnold (07/30/82)

Now, of all ideas in this debate about rational spelling, Michael Robinson's
suggestion of changing pronunciation rather than spelling is the most
interesting by far.

Changing either pronunciation or spelling is a major hassle from an
individual's point of view.  Either reduces comprehension greatly
at first until one becomes accustomed to the new system.  So what
other costs are there?

Well, changing the spelling system makes all the old English books
obselete.  Someone who grew up with the new system couldn't read
old-system books unless they were translated.  This means that either
every book must be translated, or someone must decide which is most
important to translate, and many works with as-yet-unrecognized
potential may be lost (many discoveries and insights are achieved
because someone happened upon an old, unread work which, when read
with current knowledge, became significant (or at least interesting)).
Now THAT is a huge expense.  And how do you tranlate older poetry
which is chock full of older words that aren't used anymore?

If you modify pronunciation, however, little capital outlay is required.
Retraining is an expense in either system.  The only technology which
depends on current pronunciation patterns are (s/technology/technologies)
speech recognition and poetry[1].  There isn't much that currently
operates on speech recognition besides other humans, and they all must
be retrained in any case.  The only major loss is currently written
poetry.  Since you loose some poetry in either case, this is a regrettable
but necessary loss.

Besides, with rational spelling, how do you treat dialect?  Much of
the richness of certain works (Mark Twain's stories come to mind) is
due to a generous use of dialect.  In a rational spelling system (no,
I don't assume rational == phonetic) how do you deal with variants?

		Ken

ARPAVAX:arnold (07/30/82)

This should be read after my other message, but since it's shorter
it may arrive first.  Sorry.

I forgot to add my footnote labeled "[1]", which followed a reference
to poetry as a technology.  This is a rather loose definition of
technology, but a nice one.  There is no reason to seperate art
from technology (I am also known to refer to technologies as "arts"),
since they are both human artifacts and they both serve human needs.
But this is a rather long discussion of its own, and unless this
footnote generates enough interest, I will shut up.  But read "Zen
and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" if you're interested in this
subject.

		Ken

P.S.  I do NOT favor either rational spelling or rational pronunciation
personally.  I just think that if you have to choose, at the moment
there is less capitial investment and inertia in pronunciation than
in spelling.