[net.nlang] Fubar entemology

minow (02/17/83)

Thanks to the many correspondents who pointed out the WWII slang use
of "fubar" and especially to mit-vax!mp who found the reference from
earlier times.  Turned out to predate Napoleon by a a few score years.


>From ihnss!cbosg!teklabs!tekmdp!azure!jackk Wed Feb 24 13:41:38 1982
Subject: RE: Fubar
Newsgroups: net.general; Article: 410
      The term FUBAR actually first appeared during the	reign of Queen Anne
     of	 England(  1702-1714  ),  the  last  ruling sovereign of the Stuart
     Dynasty ( 1603-1714 ). The	Duke  of  Marlborough(	1650-1722  ),  John
     Churchill,	 Sir  Winston's	great great... grandfather, after his great
     victory at	the battle of Blenhiem (  13  August  1704  )  against	the
     French,  in  Austria,  had	some captured French dispatches	translated.
     The translator, unfortunately unknown, but	believed to be a Lance Cor-
     poral  in the Royal Guards, having	some difficulty	translating a slang
     French expression used by Marshall	Tallard, the defeated  French  gen-
     eral,  gave  up  in despair and wrote in FUBAR, although not literally
     translating the dispatch, expressed the French general's  analysis	 of
     the situation.

	     1.	Smith-Huxley,J.P.,"The Augustan	Age of Good Queen Anne",
	     pg386-387,	R.Clay Ltd, London, ( 1903 ) SBN 384-82210-2.

presley (02/17/83)

Q:  What's the difference between ENTOMOLOGISTS and ETYMOLOGISTS?
A:  Etymologists know the difference.