[net.nlang] origin of 'kludge' wanted

david@varian.UUCP (07/06/83)

Does anyone know where the word 'kludge' came from?  About 2 years ago
I checked a few places like Webster's unabridged dictionary without
success, and had forgotten all about it until last week I saw an ad
(in a in-flight magazine on a plane) for a carry-on luggage bag with
all sorts of pockets and zippers called the Kludge (TM) Bag.

	David Brown
	Varian Instruments 2700 Mitchell Dr.  Walnut Creek, Ca. 94598
	(415) 945-2199
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horton@uiucdcs.UUCP (07/19/83)

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uiucdcs!horton    Jul 18 18:08:00 1983

About the origins of kludge/kluge, you might check Websters 
Ninth Collegiate Dictionary (just out).  It has 2 new features over the
older editions.

1) entries are tagged with the date of first use (much like
the OED)

2) There is an offer to answer questions of meaning/etymology
if you send a SASE to the company.


   kurt horton
   pur-ee!uiucdcs!horton

mcdaniel@uiuccsb.UUCP (07/20/83)

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uiuccsb!mcdaniel    Jul 19 15:20:00 1983

About Websters Ninth Collegiate Dictionary (just out):
To get answers to questions of meaning/etymology, write to:
	Language Research Service
	Merriam-Webster, Inc.
	P. O. Box 281
	Springfield, MA 01101
	U. S. of A.

Tim McDaniel
(UNIX mail: . . . pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcdaniel)
(CSNET: mcdaniel.uiuc@RAND-RELAY)

preece@uicsl.UUCP (07/21/83)

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uicsl!preece    Jul 20 08:35:00 1983

Unfortunately, in this case the Ninth New Collegiate gives a date
(1962, I think) but says origin unknown. So I imagine their
research service wouldn't be much more help.