chris@grkermit.UUCP (Chris Hibbert) (09/13/83)
The first page of the letter I received from the institute (and posted
earlier) described the current status of the Loglan Institute and their
intent to "go public" soon. They said that they were going to be
publishing a large amount of new material and that it would become
available in 1983 or '4.
The next section of the letter is a list of the materials they still
have available for sale. This is the part that I am posting now.
Following this is a section describing the materials they are working
on and that will become available in the near future. I'll post that
sometime next week.
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WHAT'S STILL AVAILABLE?
*Loglan 1*, the 315-page 1975 introduction by JCB; now out of print. A
notebook edition is planned for Summer 1983 release as an interim
publication while the book is being revised; around 170pp on
3-hole paper. Price around $12; advance orders welcome.
*Loglan 4 & 5*, the 1975 dictionaries ; xxii +510pp. Plenty of these
left. Includes a xxii-page summary of the grammar which will be
useful until the revised L1 appears. Hardback: $10.80
Paperback: $6.80
*Supplement to Loglan 1, 1975-1980*. Published originally as TL4/3;
72pp. Summarizes some 1200pp of TL-text; presents all the usage
and grammar proposals that survived discussion in TL; by John
Parks-Clifford. $3.50
*Loglan 3.1-3*. The first three lessons of what will eventually be a
20-50 lesson primer. Work was stopped on the Primer when the
morphological revision began in 1978. 59pp; by JCB. $2.50
*Deck 1*. 1000 vocabulary flashcards, including the 830 primitive
predicates; cut and boxed. Approximately 130 words have been
remade during the 1978-82 morphological revision; see *Notebook 2*.
You get a listing of the words to change and a reprint of JCB's
1977 TL 1/5 article on flashcard management; but you will have to
update your own deck. $8.80
*Cassette 1*. Loglan speech sounds; a 65-minute recording; 1976. the
1977 revision of this original is out of stock. $3.20
*Cassette 2*. Loglan utterance frames; a 78-minute recording composed
of 72 "listen-and-respond" frames; 1977. $4.20
Reprint. The original June 1960 *Scientific American* article by JCB.
$1.50
*Notebook 1*. The machine grammar and corpus of Loglan; a notebook
filler on 3-hole paper; 173pp. Gives the March '82 grammar which
parsed the test corpus; the 1000-utterance Corpus itself with both
machine and human parses; and the Preparse source code in BDS-C.
There is also a Glossary of the technical terms used in our
grammatical work. $12.50
*Notebook 2*. The new morphological system; a notebook filler on
3-hole paper; 182pp. Temporarily out of stock. Traces the steps
of the 1978-82 morphological revision; includes the results of all
the major "taste tests"; gives the affixes for making complex
predicates, procedures for making borrowings and acronyms,
etymologies of all the remade primitives, and all the 1975 complex
predicates as remade with the new affixes. $14.50
*LIP*. The Loglan Interactive Parser; requires C/PM and at least 48K
RAM. Incorporates the latest machine grammar. LIP responds with
machine and/or human parses, parse-trees, and preparsed strings
for any grammatical utterance submitted by the user, at any level
of grammatical detail required. Purchasers will be notified of
any revisions of the grammar and will have update privileges at
reasonable cost. $60.00
*The Loglanist*. The journal of The Institute; published aperiodically.
Subscription is by deposit. The cost of each issue plus postage
is charged against each subscriber's balance and the new balance
shown on the mailing label. Recent cost per issue has been around
$3.50, including postage. If you are overseas and want your
copies sent airmail, please say so, and increase your deposit
accordingly. Institutions are charged at twice the individual
rate per copy. When you subscribe, you will be sent only the last
issue published unless you specifically ask for back issues.
Minimum deposit, Individuals: $20.00
Institutions: $40.00
Back Issues of *The Loglanist*. Title-pages on request. Some issues
are out of print. Number and price of issues still available in
each volume:
Vol.1, 1976-77, 5 issues, 60-70pp.; $3.00 ea.
Vol.2, 1978, 1 issue, 120pp.; $4.50
Vol.3, 1979, 4 issues, 80pp.; $3.50 ea.
Vol.4, 1980, 3 issues, 80pp.; $3.50 ea.
Vol.5, 1981, 3 issues, 80pp.; $3.50 ea.
Membership in the Institute. Biennial due are currently $50, half that
for full-time students. For this you get (i) a 15% discount on
anything you buy from the Institute except TL; (ii) a monthly
newsletter on Institute affairs called Lognet; and (iii) the right
to vote in the Institute's Annual Meeting and its biennial
elections of Officers and Directors. In addition, you'll have the
opportunity of helping to prepare the numerous revisions and
expansions of your teaching materials, including software, and of
serving on a test panel to try out new materials before they are
offered to a wider public. For example, a massive augmentation of
the 1975 dictionary is now in progress, and many Members are
participating in a "shakedown cruise" with the new decipherable
affixes by helping us build new words for the 3rd Edition of
*Loglan 4 & 5*.
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The Institute asked that checks be made payable to The Loglan
Institute. Florida residents should add 5% Sales Tax for all items
except TL deposits and Membership dues. If you decide to join The
Institute, remember to subtract 15% for all non-TL items you order.
Postage and Handling is $2.50 regardless of the size of the order.
Packages will be sent Book-rate unless you specify Priority Mail
domestically, or Airmail overseas and increase your deposit
accordingly.
The Institute's address is:
The Loglan Institute, Inc.
Route 10, Box 260
Gainesville, FL 32601
This is a new address, so don't use the California or Michigan
addresses that were mentioned on the net.
Is BDS-C related to C? If so, it shouldn't be too much trouble to
make the interactive parser run under UNIX, and probably a lot of home
computers as well.
Jack Waugh {seismo,allegra,mcnc,we13,brl-bmd}!rlgvax!jack posted 3
articles in May-June (<471@rlgvax.UUCP>, <455@rlgvax.UUCP>, and
<703@rlgvax.UUCP>) telling something about the language. If you can
get those without too much trouble, they provide a short (and
non-theoretical) introduction that might be easier to get than the
Scientific American from June 1960.chris@grkermit.UUCP (Chris Hibbert) (09/29/83)
This is the third and final part of a letter I received from the Loglan
Institute. Ignore any implications made by the titles of previous articles
that there would be more or fewer parts to this posting
The first part of the letter was an announcement that the Institute intended
to go public soon with the advances they've made in the last 10 years. The
second part was a list of the materials they had on hand (available for
sale) leftover from previous states of the language. This final section of
the letter is a list of the new materials they will make available sometime
this fall.
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WHAT WILL BE AVAILABLE?
The Institute plans to have on hand the following kit of learning materials
before going public again:
*Loglan 1: A Logical Language, 4th Edition* To keep it genuinely
introductory, the new edition of this basic book by JCB will be only a
modest revision of the 1975 edition. Almost all the changes since 1975 have
been additions; so the basic structure of the language has not changed. All
erroneous statements in the current text will of course be corrected, and
many of the most useful additions will be described. But to keep this
first volume as short as possible, the reader will be told that a formally
complete account of the language will be found in *Loglan 6*, a new book
described below.
(No plans are made to reissue *Loglan 2: Methods of Construction.* All
chapters of this 1967 work by JCB are still available in Vols.1,2 of *The
Loglanist*.)
*Loglan 3: Learning Loglan, 2nd Edition.* This work has gone through
several revisions, having started life as a programmed textbook in 1960-62.
But the traditional primer format works better with cassettes and
flashcards. So the present series of 3 trial primer lessons will be
extended to about 20 before being published as the first volume in the L3
series. It is our hope to extend the series to cover even the most advanced
topics of grammar and usage.
*Loglan 4 & 5: A Loglan-English & English-Loglan Dictionary, 3rd Edition.*
The new edition will be updated for new usages and morphology, and the size
of its solid interface with English will probably be increased by about
three-fold.
*Loglan 6: Formal Structures.* This will be an entirely new work and in
reference manual format. It will provide an always-current, easily
referenceable description of the entire rule structure of Loglan in a form
suitable for those working on the interface. It will include the machine
grammar, the preparser algorithms, the phonology and morphology, and the
various algorithms linking these structures into a single whole. It is
planned to include brief historical accounts of the critical reasoning which
led to the adoption of each new feature since 1975.
**LIP: The Loglan Interactive Parser.** This computer software is described
in the current list of What's Available, [in my note "Letter from the Loglan
Institute, Part 2 of 3"] and will need only to be updated with the most
recent grammar.
*MacTeach.* This is a general name for a series of CAI programs now in
preparation. These programs will use lists of primitives, affixes, little
words, place-structures, Corpus utterances and parses provided by the
Institute, and teach vocabulary, predicate usage, word-making and
-decipherment, and utterance formation.
*Cassettes.* We plan to record a new series of casettes to be used
independently or in conjunction with the computer-aided *MacTeach* programs.
Thus the learner will be able to listen to and repeat the same Loglan that
he or she is responding to visually and manually on the *MacTeach* programs.
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We plan to start printing books again just as soon as the new *Loglan 1* and
*Loglan 3* are camera-ready, and the new lexicon has settled down enough to
permit "official" input lists to be prepared for at least the first four
MacTeach programs. Meanwhile, the MacTeach programs themselves will have
bee thoroughly tested by the Members of the Institute, and some of the new
Cassettes will have been recorded. Thus the initial kit we plan to sell
will be L1, L3.1-20, M1-4 and C1-4, where '4' and '20' are approximate.
Meanwhile, the dictionary-building and the final verification for the
technical material in *Loglan 6* can be going forward. We expect these
more labor-intensive works to appear within six monthes to a year from the
publication of the initial learning kit. In the interval, there are a few
old L4&5's left. These will be offered with correcting documents to those
among our new Loglanists who are most impatient to learn the language. For
those who do have home computers, the MacTeach vocabulary programs will
serve many of the functions of a dictionary.
Welcome aboard! JCB
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If any of you already have some of the previously mentioned materials, I
would be interested in reviews. Also, I'm interested in reviews of these
publications as they come out. It's not clear yet whether I'll get any of
it, as I don't think there's anyone around that I could use the language
with. If anyone wants to communicate on the net in Loglan, that might
provide the impetus to me to get some of the material.
If anyone out there is interested in translating the Loglan Parser into C,
I'm sure the Institute would love to hear from you. Their address is now:
The Loglan Institute Inc.
Route 10, Box 269
Gainesville, FL 32601
and their phone number is (904) 371-9574.