[net.nlang] redundancy in language and mis-pronu

leff@smu.UUCP (11/28/83)

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smu!leff    Nov 27 08:07:00 1983

High school English teachers were queried as to whether they prefered
simple direct prose or long winded pompous prose.  The majority preferred
direct prose.  However, when given student papers to grade the ones
that were the more long winded got the better grades.

dinitz@uicsl.UUCP (11/30/83)

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uicsl!dinitz    Nov 29 10:57:00 1983

It could be that maybe what the long wind-up does is it gives people time to
think of what the real content of their response will be without allowing
the ultimate embarrassment -- silence -- while they are deciding what to say.

Do think about this seriously.  To start a sentence by repeating part of the
sentence framework just processed mutatis mutandis should be nearly
effortless.  In the meantime our wonderfully parallel brains can attend to
the more complex task of composing a response.  To convince yourself there
is a prima facie case, think of how often people start a response in the way
you find objectionable, but then seem to drop off that line of attack and
begin a new sentence.  The new sentence follows closely upon the heels of
the old fragment, without pause, making for what sounds like one very
awkward sentence.

Does anyone know of any solid research to test this kind of hypothesis?

morgan@uicsl.UUCP (12/01/83)

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uicsl!morgan    Nov 30 17:45:00 1983

There is lot of published research on the special properties of
so-called 'cleft' and 'pseudo-cleft' sentences, the best done
(if memory serves) by Ellen Prince of the University of Pennsylvania.
Drop me a line if you want references.

rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (12/22/83)

Yes, silence, the bane of all (wo)mankind.  I don't know what it is, but
most people seem to think that if there is a little silence in a conversation,
it reflects on them.  I like the passage in HGttG where it's talking
about the theories Ford Prefect developed concerning why humans talked
so much.  At first he thought it was because the muscles in their jaws
would freeze up and start working.  He later decided that it was because
their brains might start working.

Think about the worst bores you know.  Isn't it because they insist on
talking even though there is nothing to say?

-- 
Randwulf  (Randy Haskins);  Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh