[net.nlang] Capitalized pronouns

esr@iheds.UUCP (E. Rieback) (12/30/83)

Can anyone explain why the pronoun I is always capitalized and the other
pronouns are not?  Does any other language have this distinction?
My own theory is that either early English speakers were an egotistical
lot, or else they were too lazy to dot their i's!

                    E. Rieback

eric@whuxle.UUCP (12/30/83)

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whuxle!eric    Dec 29 22:17:00 1983

>>  /***** whuxle:net.nlang / iheds!esr /  6:18 pm  Dec 29, 1983*/
>>  Can anyone explain why the pronoun I is always capitalized and the other
>>  pronouns are not?  Does any other language have this distinction?
>>  My own theory is that either early English speakers were an egotistical
>>  lot, or else they were too lazy to dot their i's!
>>  
>>                      E. Rieback


I'll take the capitalized pronoun over German's capitalization of
EVERY noun any day of the week. When I began taking German four years
ago, there were some capital letters that I had to re-learn to print 
because I hadn't used them in some long.... what a bitch....


			from the vacationing from school keyboard of
			eric holtman... ihnp4!whuxle!eric
			.

rab@cdcvax.UUCP (Roger Bielefeld) (12/31/83)

During my study of German, I found that the capitalization of
nouns facilitated my learning of the language.  There was never
any question of whether a word was or was not a noun.  Is this a
carry-over from some earlier language?

Note that in German the pronouns in the polite form (Sie, Ihrer, Ihnen) are
capitalized.  This is also true of Spanish (Usted, Ustedes).  However,
these are all second-person pronouns.  The first-person pronouns (yo &
nosotros in Spanish, and ich & wir in German) are not capitalized.

But, back to the original question:  why is "I" capitalized in English?
I dunno.

				Roger Bielefeld
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				rab.Case@Rand-Relay
-- 

			Roger Bielefeld
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			rab.Case@Rand-Relay

ptw@vaxine.UUCP (P. T. Withington) (01/03/84)

Perhaps just so i wouldn't get lost?  Or to make writers like e. e. cummings
unique?

                                        --ptw

ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) (01/04/84)

I seem to recall reading somewhere (and I believe) that the capitalization
of "I" is simply because it is such a small word that it would otherwise
get visually "lost", and similarly for "O".  (For that matter, the dot over
a small "i" is for much the same reason, though it is also true that in some
scripts it is otherwise impossible to distinguish "m" from "in".)

Perhaps the proper question, then, is why the other 1-letter word in English,
"a", is NOT capitalized.  I conjecture that this relates to the fact that it
was formerly the 2-letter word "an", which of course is still seen in some uses.

Any comments?
Mark Brader

grass@uiuccsb.UUCP (01/11/84)

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uiuccsb!grass    Jan  6 11:51:00 1984


Concerning capitalization of pronouns in other languages:  Russian
often capitalizes the first letter of "you" (when it is singular and
formal), but at this point that may be an older usage.  I don't know
of any other language that capitalizes just "I".

gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) (01/15/84)

Isn't the Russian 'ya' (backwards 'R'), which is 'I', always capitalized?

dbb@fluke.UUCP (01/16/84)

In Dutch/Flemish, the formal second person nominative pronoun ("U") is
capitalized.  I think the possessive pronoun Uw is, also.

Not that I speak Nederlands...

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hopp@nbs-amrf.UUCP (01/17/84)

In Spanish, the word "usted", meaning "you", is not capitalized, but the
abbreviation "Ud." is always capitalized.  Dunno why.

Ted Hopp
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grass@uiuccsb.UUCP (01/21/84)

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uiuccsb!grass    Jan 20 11:33:00 1984


No,  Russian "ya" is only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence.