[net.nlang] football/soccer

alan@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Alan Algustyniak) (03/21/84)

IORM  (Look it up)

	Does anyone know why it is that the two sports, in America, are
called 'football' and 'soccer'?

	Just interested

		Al  Algustyniak

amigo2@ihuxq.UUCP (John Hobson) (03/21/84)

"Soccer" is a shortened version of "association football", after the
body in England that codified its rules.  It is often referred to in
England as soccer to distinguish it from Rugby football (of which
there are two types, Association Rugby and Rugby League; Rugby got
its start in a game at Rugby school in England, when a boy playing
in a soccer game picked up the ball and ran with it), but soccer is
still "generic football" in most of the English speaking world.

In the late 19th century, two U.S. colleges (I think that they were
Lehigh and Yale; someone will, I am sure, correct me if I am wrong)
arranged to play a variant of Rugby.  This is recognized as the
first football game in the U.S.; and, since soccer was rarely
played, the game was called football.  American football has become
generic football in the U.S.

There is, as I am sure you know, a Canadian football, which is a
variant of the U.S. game; and is generic football in Canada.  There
is an Australian football which is a variant of Rugby (reported to
be the world's roughest game), and I do not know whether it or soccer
is generic football in Australia.

				John Hobson
				AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL
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wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (03/22/84)

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I think it was Rutgers and someone else in the first football
game.  At least they celebrate it every year in some manner or 
another here in New Jersey.  Hmmm, it might have been Princeton.
Or, maybe it was the first official intercollegiate game?  Come
on all you sports fans, help out and send in your corrections.

andrew@inmet.UUCP (03/24/84)

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inmet!andrew    Mar 23 14:21:00 1984

I believe that the first football game in the US was between Princeton and
Rutgers, and that the latter won.

jbf@ccieng5.UUCP (Jens Bernhard Fiederer) (03/31/84)

The term "soccer" is a corruption of Association Football.

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rob@ctvax.UUCP (04/04/84)

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ctvax!rob    Mar 26 10:18:00 1984

What John Hobson calls Association Rugby is a.k.a. Rugby Union.
Football to most Limeys is what is also known as soccer, unless
you are a UCT (upper-class twit) and the son of gentlefolk, in
which case football is Rugby Union.  Rugby League is more common
in the north of England, which most UCTs try to ignore.

How can you tell a Rugby Union game from a League game?
If play is resumed by a single player placing the ball on
the ground and heeling it back to a teammate, then you are
observing a Rugby League game.

Rob Spray (former lousy Second Row Forward (they're the ones with the
           cute leather headgear to prevent their ears from getting torn
           off!))
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