[net.nlang] What's in a Name

minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin Minow) (11/17/84)

I originally -- and unintentionally -- posted this to net.lang, rather
than net.nlang.  Apologies to those who see it twice (or who would
prefer not even to see it once).


> > --
> > En j0diske kvinde der hedder "Maria"?  Det er da noget du tror!!
> 
> Jeg kende en finske kvinde som hedder Maria. Hvorfor skulle den j0diske vaere
> umulig?
> -- 
> 	Dr Memory
> 	...{amd,ucbvax,ihnp4}!qubix!jdb

The above apparently appeared in net.jokes -- I saw it referenced in net.lang.
It is written in Norwegian (or perhaps Danish) and translates as:

   "A Jewish woman named Maria [Mary]?  There's something, believe me!

   "I knew a Finnish woman named Maria.  Why should the Jewish [name]
   be impossible."

Funny you should mention that -- two of my cousins are named Martha
and Mary; they're both Jewish.

While I would find "Christine" an unusual name for a Jewish woman,
I wonder why Mary is considered so odd.

Martin Minow
decvax!minow

robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) (11/21/84)

>While I would find "Christine" an unusual name for a Jewish woman,
>I wonder why Mary is considered so odd.

"Mary" and "Maria" are extremely rare Jewish names for essentially
the same reason that "Christine" is not a Jewish name.  "Mary"
and "Maria" are very strongly identified with the mother of jesus.

  - Toby Robison (not Robinson!)
  {allegra, decvax!ittvax, fisher, princeton}!eosp1!robison

srm@nsc.UUCP (Richard Mateosian) (11/26/84)

> "Mary" and "Maria" are extremely rare Jewish names for essentially
> the same reason that "Christine" is not a Jewish name.  "Mary"
> and "Maria" are very strongly identified with the mother of jesus.

Wasn't Jesus' mother Jewish?
-- 
Richard Mateosian
{amd,decwrl,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4}!nsc!srm    nsc!srm@decwrl.ARPA

cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) (11/26/84)

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> >While I would find "Christine" an unusual name for a Jewish woman,
> >I wonder why Mary is considered so odd.
> 
> "Mary" and "Maria" are extremely rare Jewish names for essentially
> the same reason that "Christine" is not a Jewish name.  "Mary"
> and "Maria" are very strongly identified with the mother of jesus.
> 
>   - Toby Robison (not Robinson!)
>   {allegra, decvax!ittvax, fisher, princeton}!eosp1!robison

Um, well, but she was Jewish. (Come to think of it, so is He.)

Is "Miriam" more usually a Jewish name? (The only Miriam I
know is Christian.)

Regards,
Chris

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mgv@duke.UUCP (Marco G. Valtorta) (11/27/84)

I also know at least one "Mary" who is Jewish. (Apart from
the mother of Jesus, that is.)  I have also always thought
that Jesus was a Jewish name! 

				Marco Valtorta
				(mgv@duke)

guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris) (11/27/84)

> > Of course, the name Mary comes from the Hebrew name Miriam,
> > which is a very good Jewish name.
> 
> Golly gee, wasn't the name of Jesus's mama Mary or Maria or
> whatever is in question here?  She would be considered Jewish, right?

Remember, Jesus' name wasn't Jesus, it was Joshua, so Mary's name may have
been Miriam.  (Sort of like the apocryphal story of the backwoods preacher
who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough
for me...")

(Posting routed to "net.nlang" from "net.lang"; "net.lang" is for computer
languages.)

	Guy Harris
	{seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy

rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) (11/28/84)

           "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus
            it's good enough for me!"

Rather than a backwoods preacher, I believe it was the amazing
"Ma" Ferguson, governor of the State of Texas during the 20s,
who uttered those immortal words.
-- 
                               Rod Williams
                               dual!ptsfa!ptsfc!rjw

         "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so"