[net.nlang] The meanings of names

cw@vaxwaller.UUCP (Carl Weidling) (01/24/85)

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	I'm curious about naming conventions in various languages. In
English a few first names still have meaning, particularly women's names,
for example:  Prudence, Hope, Faith, Ernest. Of course many names are
derived from words or expressions in other languages like Greek, Latin,
Hebrew, and Old English, but I'm referring to names that mean something in
the current language.  I wonder how much significance is attached to the
meaning in the current culture.  When an English language couple names
their child "Charity", are they really trying to make some kind of statement?
I seem to recall reading that in old New England people would give names that
were little mottoes making complete sentences, "Charity begins at home"
for instance.  That would be making a statement.  If the names are significant
then what about nicknames? In the movie "Little Big Man" one of the minor
characters was Dirt_On_The_Nose, I remember wondering if he would be likely
to be called "Dirt" or "Nose" for short.
	Having spent two years in the Navy stationed in Japan I know a little
about Japanese conventions.  The names have meanings, probably because they
are written in kanji, which are Chinese ideograms that convey meaning rather
than sound.  I met women named Haruko, Natsuko, and Akiko (Spring child,
Summer child, and Fall child, I didn't meet any Fuyuko's though). Among men's
names , for instance, Makoto means Truth, and Star Trek's Mr Sulu's first name
is Hikaru which means light ray. I don't know how much signicance the Japanese
attach to these meanings though.  One would assume that all the Natsukos were
born in the summer. Do any Japanese out there want to clarify this?
	So anyway, what groups are there in which people are named things that
really mean something in the modern vernacular?
				Regards,
				Carl Weidling

hrs@homxb.UUCP (H.SILBIGER) (01/24/85)

I doubt that many parents are aware of the meaning
of the name they give to their children.
My name, Herman is derived from the Germanic
Heermann, which means warrior (literally army man.)
They merely passed on a family name.

It has not influenced my behavior either, since I
am generally peaceful.

Herman Silbiger
homxb!hrs

rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) (02/01/85)

In article <197@vaxwaller.UUCP> cw@vaxwaller.UUCP (Carl Weidling) writes:

>I seem to recall reading that in old New England people would give names that
>were little mottoes making complete sentences, "Charity begins at home"
>for instance.  

 A friend of mine once had a maid named Iwilla - short for
 I-will-arise-and-praise-the-lord - or something like that.
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 rod williams
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riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (02/03/85)

My favorite (which I may have mentioned before) was a country boy my high
school English teacher had met in his youth.  The fellow's name was
pronounced "Pizzlem Sieve," which makes no sense until you see it in
writing: "Psalm XIV."  A good biblical name, that.

--- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.")
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