[net.nlang] Pop vs. Soda

rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) (04/23/85)

    This discussion brings up yet more language differences
    between the USA and other parts of the English-speaking
    world. In Ireland, the equivalent of a "soda pop" is a
    "mineral". "Soda" is a short form of "soda-water" - or
    what is known here as "club soda." "Pop" can be preceded
    by "ice" to form the equivalent of a "popsicle"... It's
    also something a weasel goes  (:-))
-- 

 rod williams | pacific bell | san francisco
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trisha@oddjob.UUCP (Trisha OTuama) (04/27/85)

In good old New Mexico, we always used "coke" to refer to what everyone
else apparently refers to as "pop" or "soda pop," as in "does anybody
want a coke?" to which you were supposed to reply, "yes, I'll have 
Seven-Up" (or Dr. Pepper or "orange" or whatever -- simply saying "yes"
meant you were given either Coke or Pepsi).  I never heard anyone say
"soda pop" until eight years ago when I came to the midwest.  

Will wonders never cease.

Trisha (when is that cherry coke coming to Chicago?!?) O Tuama

asente@Cascade.ARPA (04/30/85)

>     In Ireland, the equivalent of a "soda pop" is a
>     "mineral". "Soda" is a short form of "soda-water" - or
>     what is known here as "club soda."

I was incredibly mystified when I moved to New Hampshire at the tender
age of 14 and found everyone referring to "tonic."  Tonic was something
you put in your hair to me!  But no, tonic meant pop.

Not to mention bubblers, grinders, basements, and frappes.  Or, as I
knew them, drinking fountains, submarine sandwiches, restrooms
(apparently only applied to those in schools), and milk shakes.

	-paul asente

fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) (05/03/85)

Carbonated beverages are called soda.
"Soda pop" is correct, but archaic.
"Pop" a frozen desert on a stick.
"Tonic" belongs on your hair (if you're an old geezer).
"Coke" is short for Coca-cola, which is one particular
	brand and flavor of soda.
"Orange Coke" is a contradiction in terms.
"Club soda" is the WASP term for seltzer.

All of you who have been using the wrong terms now stand corrected.

	Frank Silbermann

mroddy@enmasse.UUCP (Mark Roddy) (05/06/85)

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> "Tonic" belongs on your hair (if you're an old geezer).

so what is a gin and 'tonic'?

> "Club soda" is the WASP term for seltzer.

-club soda contains salt, seltzer contains no salt.
-- 
						Mark Roddy
						Net working,
						Just reading the news.

					(harvard!talcott!panda!enmasse!mroddy)

eric@parallel.uucp (Eric Griswold) (05/08/85)

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>> "Tonic" belongs on your hair (if you're an old geezer).

>so what is a gin and 'tonic'?

Tonic refers to the medicine quinine, mixed with bubbly and a spot
of gin so as to keep oneself from contracting malaria.

Tonic is what is played before you applaud in many forms of music.

			I'm sure someone else will happily complete the list

			- eric
			(ucbvax!sun.. Oh, look in the map, you'll find me)

jc@mit-athena.UUCP (John Chambers) (05/08/85)

> "Club soda" is the WASP term for seltzer.
...
> All of you who have been using the wrong terms now stand corrected.

There was a good article on both of these, as well as various bottled
waters, in a Consumers Reports issue sometime last year.  They made
it clear that there was a distinction:

Seltzer is highly carbonated but otherwise plain water, i.e., no
significant salt or minerals should be present.

Club soda is lightly carbonated mineral water.  Thus Perrier is
an expensive brand-name (naturally carbonated) club soda.

It was interesting that the taste test done by their blind panel
judged some of the cheapest club sodas (like Canadian Club) much
better-tasting than Perrier or other classy waters.

-- 

			John Chambers [...!decvax!mit-athena]

He who has made no mistakes has probably made nothing at all.

fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) (05/09/85)

>>> "Tonic" belongs on your hair (if you're an old geezer).
	( Tonic is short for "hair tonic")

>>so what is a gin and 'tonic'?

I never drank "gin and tonic" during my childhood
(the years when words acquired their meaning).

What you are referring to is actually:
	"gin mit ah shpritz seltzer"

	Frank Silbermann