[net.nlang] Brand New

peggy@ism70.UUCP (05/08/85)

Does anyone out there know where the expression "brand new" came from?
How about "brand spanking new"?

ccc@bu-cs.UUCP (Cameron Carson) (05/14/85)

[re: origin of "brand spanking new"]

I assumed the 'spanking' part to be derived from a newborn
infant's introduction to the cold cruel world.

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Cameron C. Carson
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Boston University ACC

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arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) (05/17/85)

In article <394@bu-cs.UUCP> ccc@bu-cs.UUCP (Cameron Carson) writes:
>[re: origin of "brand spanking new"]
>
>I assumed the 'spanking' part to be derived from a newborn
>infant's introduction to the cold cruel world.

The addition of a middle word, even in the middle of a word, to add
emphasis is quite common in English and many other languages.  The
phrase that pops to mind is "big f-cking deal", and most of us (at
least most of me :->) have heard someone say something like
"out-f-cking-rageous!".  This is not incompatible with your etymology,
which sounds as reasonable to me as anything I could think of.

		Ken Arnold