[net.nlang] We're really all Veccuppians...

davidl@orca.UUCP (David Levine) (05/20/85)

In article <32900001@siemens.UUCP> rick@siemens.UUCP writes:
> ...we may call people from the U.S.S.R. Russians but they are more
>properly addressed as Soviets.  (Just as people from the Irish Republic are
>Irish).

Sorry.  A "soviet" is a legislative body.  It makes no more sense to call a
citizen of the Soviet Union a "Soviet" than it does to call a citizen of the
United States a "Congress."  

Evidence for my claim:  The American Heritage Dictionary defines "soviet" (n)
as a legislative assembly.  It then defines "Soviet" (adj) as "of or 
pertaining to the USSR", while "soviet" (adj) is "of or pertaining to 
a soviet."  On the other hand, "American" (adj) means "of or pertaining to"
several parts of the Western Hemisphere (as described in a previous 
posting), and "American" (n) is 1) an inhabitant of America or 2) a citizen 
of the US. 

I think that one calls a citizen of the Soviet Union a "Soviet citizen."
Or perhaps "Comrade." :-)

David D. Levine  (...decvax!tektronix!orca!davidl)          [UUCP]
                 (orca!davidl.tektronix@csnet-relay.csnet)  [ARPA]

P.S.  I'm cross-posting to net.rumor and net.nlang.  This debate began with a
discussion as to whether or not Canadians are Americans, and has gone quite
beyond the scope of net.rumor.  I therefore propose that the discussion be
moved to net.nlang (which I don't read.  Ha!).  - DL
whether 

wilde@apollo.uucp (Scott Wilde) (05/29/85)

>In article <32900001@siemens.UUCP> rick@siemens.UUCP writes:
>> ...we may call people from the U.S.S.R. Russians but they are more
>>properly addressed as Soviets.  (Just as people from the Irish Republic are
>>Irish).
>
>Sorry.  A "soviet" is a legislative body.  It makes no more sense to call a
>citizen of the Soviet Union a "Soviet" than it does to call a citizen of the
>United States a "Congress."  
 >
>Evidence for my claim: ...

 Try again. According to Webster's II , under soviet:             

...2. Soviets. The government and people of the Soviet Union.

                                                      Scott Wilde
                                            ...!decvax!wanginst!apollo!wilde

north@down.FUN (Stephen C North) (05/30/85)

this certainly is an exciting rumor.  i can't wait to tell
my friends about it.  they probably won't even believe me.
no wonder net.rumor is my favorite newsgroup.