rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) (08/15/85)
There has been a spate of palindromes in net.bizarre recently which got me thinking about one I remember reading about years ago. It's a Latin phrase, dating from mediaeval times and apparently loaded with occult significance. If I remember correctly, it goes like this: SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS In this format you can see that the palindrome works both horizontally and vertically. I'm sure that the five words each with five letters add to the occult value. Does anyone know what, if anything, it means in English or the significance or origin of the phrase? -- rod williams | {ihnp4,dual}!ptsfa!ptsfc!rjw ------------------------------------------- pacific bell | san ramon | california
cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) (08/18/85)
[] In article <442@ptsfc.UUCP> rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) writes: >There has been a spate of palindromes in net.bizarre recently >which got me thinking about one I remember reading about years >ago. It's a Latin phrase, dating from mediaeval times and >apparently loaded with occult significance. If I remember >correctly, it goes like this: > > SATOR > AREPO > TENET > OPERA > ROTAS > >In this format you can see that the palindrome works both >horizontally and vertically. I'm sure that the five words each >with five letters add to the occult value. Does anyone know >what, if anything, it means in English or the significance or >origin of the phrase? >-- > Flatfootedly translated, it "means" "The sower* Arepo holds the wheels by his works." If you think that means much. *As in he who sows grain etc. At that, it isn't very grammatical Latin - the fourth word ought to be "operibus", but this would bust out of the square. And *w*h*o* is Arepo? I think it's a joke, myself. In the same spirit as the constructor of palindromes, some Latin-speaker found this up-down-and-backwards pattern which was pronounceable and almost made sense. Claiming great magical/occult significance is a legitimate extension of the joke. I have seen this "magic square" in print, in a book entitled "Science For The Citizen" by Lancelot Hogben. What it was doing there I don't know, since Mr Hogben professed a fastidious disdain for all things magical, occult, traditional, unscientific, or unutilitarian. My favorite pseudo spell is to intone REX QUID CARGO ANGUS SUBGUM SIBELIUS MUMBO. My favorite palindrome is "Named undenominationally rebel, I rile beryl? La, no! I tan. I'm, O Ned, nude, Man." Regards, Chris -- Full-Name: Christopher J. Henrich UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh US Mail: MS 313; Perkin-Elmer; 106 Apple St; Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 Phone: (201) 758-7288
mmar@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Mitchell Marks) (08/20/85)
S A T O R A R E P O T E N E T O P E R A R O T A S This is more than a palindrome, it's a word square. (Indeed, it's not very palindromic -- only TENET is reversible by itself.) This was found as an inscription and, so far as I know, its authenticity has never been challenged. If authentic, it's the earliest known example. Martin Gardner discussed word squares a few times, but I can't put my finger on specific comments about this one in any of the collections of his I have. So the remainder of this paragraph is based on possibly inaccurate memory. Attempts have been made to construe it as a coherent sentence, but it seems to be obscure. The problem is a word or two that doesn't occur anywhere else in Latin. Taking the problem word as a proper name (I think it was AREPO), one translation was "The farmer Arepo holds the wheel at work". One reference on word squares that I do have at hand is _Word_ _Recreations_from_Word_Ways by A. ross Eckler (Dover #23854-7, 1979). Though the book is under a 1979 copyright, original serial publication of some of the material goes back to 1969, so comments on records and state of the art are probably out of date. Eckler distinguishes `regular word squares', like the Latin one, in which the same words are used horizontally and vertically, from `double word squares', in which the sets of horizontal and vertical words are disjoint. The best pre-1976 6x6 double square was the following from Dmitri Borgmann: SAPPER ADIATE MARTHA UNITER ECTENE LEERED In 1976 M. D. McIlroy made a computer survey for 6 x 6 squares at Bell Labs. He came up with 117 different squares, most of which were less dependent on rare or obscure words than the above, including several in which 11 out of the twelve words could be found in Webster's Pocket Dictionary. Some of them come in families involving minor substitutions, but others remain singlets. Picking one at random from those Eckler lists: P R I M A L R E C I P E O T I T I S S E C R E T E N L A C E R E E L E R Frank Rubin of Wappingers Falls NY made a computer search for a 10 x 10 square, using a list of 35,000 words from Webster's Second Unabridged (Eckler doesn't say when this was). He didn't find one. His best result was a square in which the last two columns and rows were not filled with real words: A C C O M P L I S H C O O P E R A N C Y C O P A T E N T E E O P A L E S C E N T M E T E N T E R O N P R E S T A T I O N L A N C E T O O T H I N T E R I O R L Y S C E N O O T L H Y E T N N H Y In 1976 Paul Remley proposed the problem of a 6x6x6 word cube, and the author (it seems to be Eckler) says he constructed one in a few hours, using the OED as his word list. He also constructed a non-symmetrical 6x6x6 cube, relaxing the criteria for words somewhat. He also provides a 7x7x7 symmetrical cube. Rather than listing them, I'll cross-post this to net.puzzle, and see what people can come up with. As a guide to the level of stringency or laxity involved, here are the questionable words Eckler had to allow himself: For the 6x6x6 symmetrical: all in OED. For the 6x6x6 non-symmetrical: 82 of the 108 from OED, or inferred from OED. 5 from Webster's Third. 4 from English Dialect Dictionary. 2 foreign words. 3 place names from Webster's New Geographical Dictionary. The remaining 12 include `inferred terms' like REPERE and ANT-EGS, two-word forms like HE MENT (archaic past of mend), and citation-form plurals like SWESH'S. For the 7x7x7 symmetrical, oddities include ARREESTS, ELAATER, EMERYES, GYANTER, ILLECTE, NAYANTE, NIBLICS, SERRITA, SLASTER, SSSSSSS, STEININ', TELMEST, TINTILY, and TUTELLE. Wait! It's not Eckler, it's Jeff Grant. -- -- Mitch Marks @ UChicago ...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!mmar