[net.nlang] The Great American? Bird

bobm@rtech.UUCP (Bob Mcqueer) (12/15/85)

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Well, I guess "sign language" counts as natural language, so we can discuss
its etymology here, also.

I saw an item in the newspaper a while ago, in which the author stated in
passing that the upraised middle finger as a rude gesture went back to the
Roman Empire.  I found this surprising.  I would have guessed that the
gesture was of distinctly American origin, and probably fairly recent (no
more than a century or so old, if that).  Can anyone verify this one?
Somehow, I find it comical to contemplate the vulgar masses of ancient
Rome flipping the bird at Nero when he wasn't looking.

Bob McQueer
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jim@randvax.UUCP (Jim Gillogly) (12/17/85)

In article <793@rtech.UUCP> bobm@rtech.UUCP (Bob Mcqueer) writes:
>I saw an item in the newspaper a while ago, in which the author stated in
>passing that the upraised middle finger as a rude gesture went back to the
>Roman Empire.
>                                          Can anyone verify this one?

Not exactly a verification, but I have allocated some neurons to remembering
that its Latin name is the "digitus impudicus", or "immodest finger".
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	Jim Gillogly
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