lacy@saturn.UUCP (Sharon Lacy) (09/18/84)
At the risk of contradicting someone who has first hand knowledge, I wanted to add some information that I got from my father. He was in the Air Force from 1950 - 1973 and worked on several of the planes that have been discussed. The B-36 did indeed have a smaller plane "attached" to its belly. The project was known as "Ficon" and the plane was an F84G. The Ficon was retrieved by a hook extending from the belly, a couple of stablizers secured it and the pilot left the Ficon and entered the B-36 via the bombay. The tube was used to connect the pressurized cockpit to the pressurized gunners compartment. You traveled from the cockpit to the gunners compartment by laying on your back on a sliding platform and pulling yourself along with an overhanging rope. He contends that the B-58 had less than a full "life" because it was difficult to maintain. Sharon Lacy hplabs!lacy
tggsu@resonex.UUCP (Tom Gulvin Root) (09/20/84)
You won't believe this, but my B-58 Hustler hand book says that it started life as a new drop plane for the B-36! The weapon/fuel pod would contain engines as well (dropped with the bomb (er, device) - I bet few practice runs would be made each year!). Though fairly detailed, it contains no real info on why it was withdrawn and replaced with the FB-111 (which is nearly as old but still around). BTW, does anyone know if the B-1B roto-tiller is going to replace the (almost forgotten by the media/etc.) FB-111? Tom Gulvin - Resonex, Inc. - Sunnyvale CA.
dsmith@hplabsc.UUCP (David Smith) (09/25/84)
I dug out my July 1976 issue of AIRPOWER, which has its cover article on the B-58. Re: B-58 as "drop plane" "One of the more interesting Convair proposals at this time [1949-51] was a parasite configuration designed to be carried by a B-36 to within 1,500 miles of its target. Like the actual B-58 finally rolled out several years later, it was to carry its weapons load externally." There is a picture of a B-58, less nose, being carried by a B-36. The caption says "Structural test equipment at Convair was not sufficient to thoroughly test an airframe as large as that of the B-58. Accordingly, one was pulled from the assembly line and temporarily mated to a Convair B-36F. In March of 1957, this concoction flew non-stop from Fort Worth to Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio where the tests could be successfully conducted. In order for the flight to take place, the two inboard props of the B-36 had to be removed. The mother ship's landing gear was left fully extended for the duration of the trip." The picture makes it clear that the removal of B-36 propellers and B-58 nosecone, and nonretraction of B-36 landing gear, were necessary. Re: jet-powered weapon pod "By December of 1951, Convair's MX-1626 had evolved to the point where it was superficially resembling the airplane that was soon to become the B-58. By this time there were three crew members, the pod was free falling and no longer self-propelled (though this possibility, along with numerous others, was kept as an option) and the nose configuration had taken on that rakish, distinctly beautiful, B-58 look." "Numerous pod designs and approaches were submited for use with the B-58, including the 100-mile range rocket-powered variant shown here... Submisions covered the gamut of possibilities from reconnaisance platforms to anti-satellite missiles." Performance "B-58 usually lifted off at 190 knots with a rate of climb at sea level of 17,000 fpm. with a full load. Lightly loaded, this increased to an incredible 46,000 fpm. with afterburner, which was faster than that of an F-4 Phantom." Structure "One of the more significant advances afforded the B-58's structural development was the incorporation of honeycomb sandwich as a major part of its structure. Several types were utilized in the airplane, including glass fiber, aluminum, and stainless steel core. Roughly 90 percent of the wing surface was honeycomb sandwich and about 80 percent of the total airframe. The material itself offered a stiff, light structure resistant to aerodynamic and sonic fatigue and easily conformable to the critical tolerances necessitated by supersonic flight. "B-58 structural weight was kept at an absolute minimum. In fact, this became one of the more successful [maybe too successful; see below --drs] aspects of the development program, eventually resulting in a dry airframe weight that amounted to only 14 percent of the total weight of the airplane." Strength, accidents "Though losses were inordinately high, the test program continued throughout 1957 and 1958. Accident causes varied, but some of those that eventually came to light included loss of the vertical stabilizer at high Mach due to assymetric yaw (usually attributed to the loss of an engine), freezing of elevon ratio changers, malfunctioning of the computerized fuel transfer system for maintenance of center of gravity, and general structural failure due to over-control (under the most ideal of circumstances the B-58 could not be subjected to more than +3 gs or less than -2 gs). Additionally, at least one accident occurred when overheated tires exploded in the landing gear wells rupturing hydraulic and fuel lines, and totally incapacitating the airplane." "Very early in the flight test program, [Beryl] Erickson [Convair's chief of B-58 flight test] had predicted a high loss rate due to accidents. Unfortunately, his prediction was to prove all too accurate. Of the first 13 airplanes, three were lost in fatal accidents. Of the second lot of 17, no less than six were lost. Fully one-third of the total test batch of 30 were destroyed before the B-58 test program ended." "The B-58's safety record, later to become an overwhelming factor in its removal from service, was nothing to write home to momma about. Fully 20 percent of all B-58s built were eventually destroyed in accidents, not a few of these occuring during the course of its service career. A sophisticated airplane, it depended to a great extent on the abilities of its electronic wizardry, the knowhow of its mechanics, and the skill of its pilot to keep it in the air. Mistakes were forbidden and it was rare that one got the chance to make another." Gone, but why? "Now that the B-58's days have come and gone, the nagging question remains, why did it have to go -- and why weren't more B-58s built to begin with? "Many reasons have been presented, but only a few are valid. In truth, the demise of the world's first supersonic bomber can be directly traced to two things; (1) it was an extremely dangerous airplane to fly, and (2) it was not configured for low-altitude weapons delivery technique. "The B-58's safety record was miserable. The fatality rate was the highest in the Air Force. Some crews (and these were hand picked) when questioned confidentially, admitted to being afraid of the airplane. Their discouraging words were not long in reaching the ears of the 'big boys' in the Pentagon. "During the years of B-58 development, much thought had been given to the airplane's capabilities at low altitude. In the years to follow, the B-58's low-altitude flight characteristics were to prove exemplary. However, at low altitudes, the airplane's fatigue life was shortened considerably. It had been designed for high-altitude, high-speed enemy territory penetration, at a time when a low altitude capability, flying under enemy radar, had seemed of secondary importance. Now, despite its obvious merits, it could not be utilized for what was, in effect, a totally different mission. "In the meantime, Russia's anti-aircraft defenses were known to be improving almost by the hour. Loss of Gary Powers' U-2, most likely to an anti-aircraft missile, in 1960, underlined this fact in red ink. The writing was on the wall -- high altitude penetration was out, low altitude penetration was in. Even so, the B-58, not readily applicable to the low altitude job, was allowed to stick around for a while. But by 1969 it was no longer considered a viable delivery system.