[net.aviation] tower conversation

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (08/02/84)

I soloed at a controlled field and just after my first takeoff I got a

	"Doesn't it fly a whole lot better without that fat flight
	instructor in it?"

from the tower.

Ron
Cessna Heavy 4YF.

nathanm@hp-pcd.UUCP (nathanm) (08/12/84)

I flew to and from Portland International on Thanksgiving
day a few years ago.  The controllers strike was a few months old,
but traffic was so light that the existing staff was in a wonderful
mood.  One advisory I received:

"Keep an eye out for an Air Oregon Metroliner at 12 o'clock.
You'll recognize him by the cranberry jelly dripping from the
wings."

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Nathan Meyers
hp-pcd!nathanm

brian@sequent.UUCP (08/18/84)

	I was listening to the Hillsboro (OR) tower one IFR day and
	heard a conversation which convinced me that Air Traffic 
	Controllers are indeed human. 

	The pilot flying an IFR approach contacted the tower and 
	did his speal.

	The tower acknowledged and as is often the case at Hillsboro,
	gave a hazardous bird warning. These were special birds, though,
	(and especially large):

	"Warning, hazardous bird activity in the vicinity of Hillsboro
	Airport, Caution advised. Be advized there is a flight of swans
	on a left downwind for runway 12"

	The pilot thanked the tower and continued on. After a while, he
	asked for an update on the geese.

	"They're not GEESE, they're SWANS! And they're now left base for 12"

	The pilot was getting close now and was apparently concerned that
	the swans would interfere with his landing, so just a minute or
	two later he called in again. The towers response:

	"The geese are about one mile out on a final for 12."
	
	Then:
	
	"It looks like they're going to make a missed approach."

	After a moment:

	"Yup, they're making a missed approach, and better than a lot I've
	seen. Bonanza XXXXX cleared to land runway 12."

gmm@bunker.UUCP (Gregory M. Mandas) (08/27/84)

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This is the first time I knew how to be a pilot in command.

This is a tower conversation I held at Springfield, Ohio. There
is an Ohio Air National Guard unit flying A-7's. On this day
a pair of them were landing as I approached.

ME:	Springfield Tower, Cherokee 2295t 5 miles south landing 6.

TWR1:	2295t set up right base for 6.

	At this time the A-7's did a closed pattern. The flew flat
	out, side-by-side down the runway, chopped the power,
	climbed to pattern altitude and pealed off for sequencing.

TWR1:	95T execute a right 360 and contunue until advised for 
	sequencing behind traffic.

TWR2: 	(A different voice) 95T disregard 360. Contunue on base.
	You are cleared to land number 2 behind A-7.

ME:	Tower, 95T. NEGITIVE. I will continue 360. Request landing
	number 3 behind second A-7.

TWR1:	(The First guy) 95T, roger. Continue 360. 

ME:	Tower, 95T, Thank you.

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Several days later I was approved for a downwind crossing an intersecting
runway. As I crossed 6/24 on downwind for 15/33 I noticed 4 A-7s executing
a closed pattern. They passed under me flying on the deck, two-by-two. The 
Guard guys use military radio freqs so general aviation has no idea what 
they are doing, save the instructions given by the Tower. I wish I could
fly in the Air National Guard.

Greg Mandas
ittvax!bunker!gmm

normb@tekred.UUCP (Norm Babcock ) (08/28/84)

While doing touch-n-goes at Hillsboro (Oregon) airport,
I had just turned final for 30 when the tower notified me
of something different than the usual bird activity:

twr: "016, be advised that there is a dog heading for the
      intersection of 30 and 20"
me: "Roger, 016 looking"

I looked, but couldn't spot the hound, so I called the tower:
"This is 016, could I have a dog check, please?"

twr: "Roger, he's in position and holding"
me: "016 has traffic"
me: "this is 016, traffic has left the active and seems to
     be heading for the ramp" 
twr: "Roger, you're cleared to land, we'll pick him up on
      point seven" (Hillsboro ground)

The Hillsboro tower folks have displayed a sense of humor
more than once.

William.Sholar@CMU-CS-C.ARPA (08/29/84)

Departing Dulles last week I got the following clearance from the tower:

	"Grumman 14N, cleared for immediate takeoff.  Make left turn as
	 soon as possible after takeoff, avoid the tower if at all possible."

Less amusing was the clearance I received on my first solo, shortly after the
PATCO folks were replaced:

	"Cessna 68Q, cleared to land, you are number one ahead of a Citation
	 on two mile final."
	   (very short pause)
	"Oh hell, this isn't working out very well -- 68Q, make a left turn 
	 now."

	In retrospect, it was a good lesson in just who has to be ultimately
	responsible for the airplane.  
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dwl@hou4b.UUCP (D Levenson) (08/31/84)

At MMU (Morristown, New Jersey) the tower once informed me, in reply
to my reporting turning final, "Mooney 48Q is cleared to land; a
Cessna 150 reported dragon flies on the approach!"

Dave

barrett@hpcnoe.UUCP (barrett) (09/11/84)

I too have really enjoyed working with the controllers in the Portland OR
vicinity.  

While taking a fellow pilot  to  an  FSS  with  full  weather  info  (TV
monitors,   charts,   and   the   whole  mess),  I  landed  at  portland
international (PDX) thinking that was where it was.  The actual location 
was at Hillsboro about 10 miles to the west  of  PDX.   When  requesting
clearance for leaving PDX, the following dialogue occured: 

"Portland Tower, Grumman 9861 Lima ready for departure"
"61 Lima, what's your destination?"
"Hillsboro"
"61 Lima, NONSTOP??? "


Dave Barrett
hplabs!hp-dcd!Barrett

dwight@timeb.UUCP (Dwight Ernest) (09/13/84)

On the subject of tower conversations, I can remember reading in FLYING
magazine not too long ago of the following conversation overheard on
an FAA Center frequency in the southwestern U.S. on a very quiet Sunday
night (actually an early Monday morning, I think). It seems the airline
pilot was bored and hadn't heard anything on the circuit for a long time...

(Pilot) Phoenix Center, United 788.
(Controller) United 788, Phoenix Center. Go ahead.
(Pilot) Ahhhh, Phoenix Center, say your position, over.
(Controller, apparently without hesitation and with a straight face)
	Firmly seated, sir.
(Pilot) Phoenix Center, maintain altitude and heading. Out.
(Controller) <click click>

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cfiaime@ihnp4.UUCP (Jeff Williams) (09/16/84)

TWA 111:  Kansas City Center, be advised that you are broken up.
          Uhhh...not you personally...

(This was overheard near Salina, Kansas while giving instrument dual.)

(Heard near Springfield, Mo.)

Approach:  Delta 573, say your position.

Delta 573:  I'm the first officer, what are you?

(And my favorite, from Richard Taylor)

Approach:  Barnburner 1234A, squawk ident.

Barnburner 1234A:  Ident!  Ident!  Ident!  SQUAWK!!

                           Jeff Williams - AT&T Bell Laboratories
                           ihnp4!cfiaime

dvs@hpfclo.UUCP (dvs) (09/28/84)

	I'll admit that you can hear some pretty amazing lines from
	the tower, but I've also heard a few good ones from the 
	pilots, too. 

	As an example ...

	A few years ago I was working local control at an airport
	which had a squandron of ANG RF-4's stationed there.  It was
	in the evening and a training flight of 2 F-4's was recovering
	when the east arrival controller informed me that they would 
	be entering a 6 mile initial.  Shortly there after, the flight 
	came up on tower freq and reported initial.   As was customary 
	when dealing with fighters who often made multiple practice 
	approaches, I responded,

		"Banshi05, tower, say type landing and intentions after."

	The F-4 jock barked his reply,

		"Full stop ... drink beer."




	Dan "there's alot more where that came from" Simula