[net.aviation] B-1 et al

ths@lanl-a.UUCP (10/20/84)

The comment about replacing the B-52 with a modified commercial aircraft
would seem to have some merit, especially when you look at the current
condition of the B-52 fleet and the restriction being placed on them.
I recall during the early seventies the same  logic was applied to the
C-5. It was costing three times what a 747 cost. Congress wanted at least
a portion of the MAC fleet to consist of 747's. Unfortunately the military
"proved" to Congress that the 747 was an unworthy substitute. Noting the
747's inability to use "unprepared" fields and the like. One congressman
noted that in a conbat situation it might still be more cost effective to
land the 747 "in the rough" and just leave them there.

I just have a hard time believing that we can't come up with a suitable
"basic bomber" type for the mission now being handled by the B-52 for
considerably less than "one billion per copy". I have also gone through
a few B-52 cockpits in the past few years and was really dissappointed
to see the condition of these aircraft. the last one I was in was just
last year. The instrument panel had been modified many time over to
accept newer avionics and flight instrumentation. Large holes, loose wiring
and makeshift brackets gave me the impression that I would have second
thoughts taking the plane into the air, much less into combat.

The cost of the B-1 program, even recognizing the immediate need for a
B-52 replacement, does not seem justified. It is important to note
that we are not getting a "fleet" of B-1s. Something in the neighborhood
of 100 planes is it. How long will it take for attrition to move that
number to the point where we will be looking for "another" replacement.
Will the B-1 still be able to serve 30 years from now!

I remember visiting General Dynamics Fort Worth in 1967. I was told that they
still had the tooling for the B-24 "out back". Wonder if they could put a
few of those togeather......

medin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) (10/22/84)

Well, that number 100 planes is heavily dependent on stealth
coming in on schedule and on target.  I have a feeling that its
going to be late and underperformance.  Then we'll see how many B-1's
are produced.

				Milo