[net.aviation] Light twin trainer

lou@sunne.uucp (Lou Alvarez) (05/24/85)

	I am in the market to purchase a light twin for training purposes.
I have been considering a cougar or a duchess but an open to any and all 
suggestions. If anyone has any knowledge of the reliability, ADs, or any short-
comings on any of these planes, I would appreciate an answer.

	If this deal does not pan out, I have a chance to pick up a 1979
Tiger. Other than the normal complaints about this being a too "hot" of an
airplane to be used as a trainer, I would like the same info.

						Thanks
:w
:q

cfiaime@ihnp4.UUCP (Jeff Williams) (05/28/85)

> 
> 	I am in the market to purchase a light twin for training purposes.
> I have been considering a cougar or a duchess but an open to any and all 
> suggestions. If anyone has any knowledge of the reliability, ADs, or any short-
> comings on any of these planes, I would appreciate an answer.
> 
> 	If this deal does not pan out, I have a chance to pick up a 1979
> Tiger. Other than the normal complaints about this being a too "hot" of an
> airplane to be used as a trainer, I would like the same info.
> 
> 						Thanks

Having flown both the GA-7 Cougar and the BE-76 Dutchess, I would be
rather inclined to suggest the Cougar as the better airplane.  Let's 
face it, a twin with Vmc below stall speed (both Vs0 and Vs1), range
to go from Houston to Denver nonstop with good reserves, 160 horse
Lycomings, and easy handling has got to be a good airplane.

Except.  Parts.  Ever since Alan Paulson pulled the plug on the light
Grumman/Gulfstream-American line, parts have been a real pain.  Only
115 of these machines were built.  Paulson dumpped the line for production
space for the Hustler single/twin (later known as the Perigran(sp?)) and
still not produced.  The remaining parts were bought by Wag-Aero.  Oh,
sure, Paulson will still build you parts, at a premium.

Ah, the Cougar brings back fond memories.  I got my multi-i in one.
Serial number 15.  Played around with the last one built, too.  She
was screaming yellow, with full King equipment, 3 axis george, r-nav,
and anything else you could possibly want.  You could do a bunch worse
than the GA-7.

As for the Beech, the one I flew was rather clapped out.  Beat to (uhhh)
yes it was.  Serial number 6.  Strange little airplane, developed from
the Serria.  Beech just never got the little airplanes right.  Anything
less than the Bonanza line just doesn't seem to be a good flying 
airplane.  Sure, high quality, but last in it's class for performance.
And EXPENSIVE.  Olive Ann doesn't sell cheap airplanes.

If you want a cheap airplane, buy an Apache.  That's right, the "Toad."
Heck, you pay for the engines, and get the airframe free.  Like any
twin in the little class, it won't climb on one engine, is cheap to 
put fuel into, and the payments won't eat you out of house and home.
Get an expensive one and you pay around $16,000.  Shoot, the other
airplanes in the class go for $30,000 and above.  Good airplane.  Just
get a GOOD annual the instant you get it home.  But that is good advice
for any used airplane.

Well, you wanted opinion, and you got it.

			Keep it low, slow, and within gliding distance!
			Jeff Williams
			AT&T Bell Laboratories
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