rl@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Robert Langridge%CGL) (08/08/85)
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What homebuilt, promised for debut in 15 months, answers to the following
description?
"About the size of a squat, clipped wing Grumman Yankee..."
"...takeoff runs as short as 400 ft"
"...at an operational weight of 2400 lbs...able to climb at 434 kts
from takeoff at a 45 degree angle up through 20,000 ft"
"...capable of supersonic flight up to speeds of about Mach 1.6"
I quote from "Private Pilot" Aug 1985 (No, not April 1 1985 :-).
Answer: What else but the latest from Jim Bede, the BD-10J, powered
by a civilian version of the 2950 lb thrust GE J-85. After the BD-5J,
and earlier interesting precursors, I suppose the BD-10J is a logical
successor. You must admit that Bede is an imaginative guy.
Me, I think I'll have to be satisfied with Mach 0.15 (I can't afford
$95,200 for the BD-10J kit (less engine) :-)
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San Francisco CA 94143 Phone: +1 415 666 2630wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) (08/12/85)
> What homebuilt, promised for debut in 15 months, answers to the following > description? > > "About the size of a squat, clipped wing Grumman Yankee..." > "...takeoff runs as short as 400 ft" > "...at an operational weight of 2400 lbs...able to climb at 434 kts > from takeoff at a 45 degree angle up through 20,000 ft" > "...capable of supersonic flight up to speeds of about Mach 1.6" > > Answer: What else but the latest from Jim Bede, the BD-10J, powered > by a civilian version of the 2950 lb thrust GE J-85. After the BD-5J, > and earlier interesting precursors, I suppose the BD-10J is a logical > successor. You must admit that Bede is an imaginative guy. > Hmmmm, I hate to mention this, but... the original name of the "Yankee" or AA-1 line was: The BD-1! Yup, that's right, fans, the Yankee was a Jim Bede design. Originally designed for a C-85 engine, yet with performance figures similar to those given above :-). The BD-1 was a homebuilt aircraft that eventaually went into production. The tubular spar/fuel tank design and "curve to fit" wrap-around-the-spar airfoil was designed for home construction. "Son of Aviation Trivia" question: What were: ---the BD-2 (I know this one) ---the BD-3 (can't remember) Ron Wanttaja (ssc-vax!wanttaja) Favorite pre-takeoff statement to passengers: "So this is it, we're all going to die..."
dbp@dataio.UUCP (Dave Pellerin) (08/12/85)
> >"Son of Aviation Trivia" question: What were: > >---the BD-2 (I know this one) >---the BD-3 (can't remember) > > Ron Wanttaja > (ssc-vax!wanttaja) > Oh, this IS fun !! BD-2 - Scrawny little high wing 2 seat (looks like a BD-4) ?? BD-3 - Motor-glider ?? BD-4 - Erector set construction high-wing 4 seater. Did I win? - Dave Pellerin -
bob@ulose.UUCP ( Bob Bismuth ) (08/13/85)
> <--- > > What homebuilt, promised for debut in 15 months, answers to the following > description? > > "About the size of a squat, clipped wing Grumman Yankee..." > Answer: What else but the latest from Jim Bede, the BD-10J, powered > by a civilian version of the 2950 lb thrust GE J-85. After the BD-5J, > and earlier interesting precursors, I suppose the BD-10J is a logical > successor. You must admit that Bede is an imaginative guy. Maybe someone can correct me out there, but wasn't the AA-1 (and AA-5) originally designed and produced by Jim Bede under the guise of the American Aviation Corp. (or some such name) and later sold, along with the type certificate(s), to Grumman ? Given the history of the BD-5A and BD-5J (J series was a Burt Rutan redesign under contract to Bede, wasn't it?), the most amazing thing to me about Jim Bede is that he always comes out of the sewers of bankrupcy smelling like Mr. Clean himself. -- bob (decvax!ulose!bob)
rlr@avsdT.BERKNET (Rhode L. Roberts) (08/14/85)
> Answer: What else but the latest from Jim Bede, the BD-10J, powered > by a civilian version of the 2950 lb thrust GE J-85. After the BD-5J, > and earlier interesting precursors, I suppose the BD-10J is a logical > successor. You must admit that Bede is an imaginative guy. > > Me, I think I'll have to be satisfied with Mach 0.15 (I can't afford > $95,200 for the BD-10J kit (less engine) :-) Besides, what will you do with the incomplete kit parts and/or the partialy completed plane when Bede files chapter 11 again... R. L. Roberts Ampex Corporation One of the Allied/Signal Companies Audio Video Systems Division Computer Services Group 401 Broadway M.S. 3-54 Redwood City, CA. 94063-3199 (415) 367-3790 ...{hplabs,ucbvax}!atd!t:rlr
medin@noscvax.UUCP (Ted Medin) (08/16/85)
In article <608@ucsfcgl.UUCP> rl@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Robert Langridge%CGL) writes: >Answer: What else but the latest from Jim Bede. Ahh! The Snake Oil salesman returns.
cfiaime@ihnp3.UUCP (Jeff Williams) (08/19/85)
> > > >"Son of Aviation Trivia" question: What were: > > > >---the BD-2 (I know this one) > >---the BD-3 (can't remember) > > > > Ron Wanttaja > > (ssc-vax!wanttaja) > > > > Oh, this IS fun !! > > BD-2 - Scrawny little high wing 2 seat (looks like a BD-4) ?? > > BD-3 - Motor-glider ?? > > BD-4 - Erector set construction high-wing 4 seater. > > Did I win? > > - Dave Pellerin - According to Jane's 1974-1975, the following airplanes are listed: BD-2 "Love One" combined the modified airframe of a Schweizer sailplane with a modified Continental piston engine for a non- stop unrefuelled around the world flight. (Neat airplane, I saw it in Augusta, Kansas in 1980) BD-3 was not mentioned. BD-4 as known. BD-5 (need we say more) BD-6 was a single seat BD-4 powered by a 50-75 horse Hirth. (The following is from memory) BD-7 was a slick looking 4 place BD-5 with Lycoming power BD-8 was a racing or aerobatic one place airplane that looked fairly conventional. Enjoy... jeff williams - ihnp3!cfiaime