rje@cae780.UUCP (Bob Evans) (09/20/85)
I know I'm coming in on the end of this discussion, but since I happen to have the manuals for the airplanes, I thought I'd slip :-) in my two cents worth. I have manuals for 1980 C172-RG 1982 C172-P 1892 C182-R 1983 C152 In only one of the manuals are slips and flaps mentioned together - The 1982 C172-P. The manual says "Steep slips should be avoided with flap settings of greater than 20 degrees due to a slight tendency for the elevator to oscillate under certain combinations of airspeed, sideslip angle, and center of gravity loadings". The manual also calls for a placard located near the flap extension lever "avoid slips with flaps extended". All of my time (150 hours) has been in Cessnas -152, 172, 172rg. Only in the ships with 40 degrees of flaps (all 40 degrees used) have I ever noticed the oscillations mentioned - it appears to have about a 1 to 2 foot amplitude. The conditions were - full fuel, forward CG, steep descent with full (controls full over) slip, airspeed 60 knots. The oscillations have a period of about 1-2 seconds. There never _seemed_ to be any danger of loss of control. BTW my instructor (ex-navy fixed wing, helo, CFII) said that the oscillation was caused by momentary blocking of the airflow over the elevator, but that it was obviously :-) self-correcting ... At any rate, I've never experienced any problems due to slipping with the flaps out. Bob FROM: Robert J. Evans, CAE Systems Division of Tektronix, Inc. UUCP: tektronix!teklds!cae780!rje {ihnp4, decvax!decwrl}!amdcad!cae780!rje {nsc, hplabs, resonex, qubix, leadsv}!cae780!rje USNAIL: 1333 Bordeaux Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94089 [until we move ... soon] AT&T: (408)745-1440 [until we move .. soon]