[net.aviation] Spies on the net from Amazing Stories

wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (11/04/85)

Psychics take note! No sooner do we discuss a topic on net.aviation
(B-17 belly turrets and the fate of the gunner in wheels-up landings)
than the EXACT SAME THEME is the topic of the special one-hour Amazing
Stories aired 3 Nov 85. Since the production leadtime makes it
impossible that the net inspired the episode, it must be that someone in
the know about the series posted to the net. (Or mental telepathy was
working...)

Will

PS -- One of the aspects of Amazing Stories that has consistently
impressed me is the sheer size of the cast -- many episodes have crowds
of extras in costume and lots of activity in the background and to the
sides which is not necessary to the story, but certainly improves the
appearance of the production. Anybody know how much these episodes cost,
and how that compares with other series? WM

wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) (11/06/85)

> Psychics take note! No sooner do we discuss a topic on net.aviation
> (B-17 belly turrets and the fate of the gunner in wheels-up landings)
> than the EXACT SAME THEME is the topic of the special one-hour Amazing
> Stories aired 3 Nov 85. Since the production leadtime makes it
> impossible that the net inspired the episode, it must be that someone in
> the know about the series posted to the net. (Or mental telepathy was
> working...)
> 
> Will
> 

YES!  YES!  I'LL ADMIT IT!  my .sig may be "Ron Wanttaja," but I'm actually
Steve Spielburg!  HA! HA!  My "Aviation Trivia" quizzes were nothing but a
scheme to generate scripts... you should see what I used from
net.auto.tech!

Alhough reluctant to post TV criticism to net.aviation, I never was so
disappointed in an ending as I was to this episode.  I was able to overlook
the technical points (the laughable "checklist" <Intercoolers to
intercool>, the lack of oxygen masks or the electrically heated flight
suits), the constant wearing of aviator sunglasses, whistling of "the Wild
Blue Yonder," the DB-601 engine sticking into the side of the Fort, etc.
The same plotline was the subject of a "12 O'Clock High" episode, and (good
'ol) General Savage's solution using a fire extinguisher had at least some
relation to reality.  I don't mind fantasy, but going through 50 minutes of
a fairly accurate, high-drama flying story only to have a off-the-wall
fantasy ending stinks.  An ideal ending would have been that the apparent
ending was an "Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge" type... the gunner fantasized
the wheels lowering, and was squashed at the very end.  Real PG-13 stuff.

					    Ron (Deadstick) Wanttaja
					    (ssc-vax!wanttaja)

"Archbury control, this is Ramrod Leader..."

dpw@bonnie.UUCP (David Williams) (11/07/85)

> Psychics take note! No sooner do we discuss a topic on net.aviation
> (B-17 belly turrets and the fate of the gunner in wheels-up landings)
> than the EXACT SAME THEME is the topic of the special one-hour Amazing
> Stories aired 3 Nov 85.  ...

   I turned on the tube about the time this episode was getting underway,
and stuck with it to the bitter end (required some gnashing of teeth).
Sloppiness like the air combat scenes reduces me to ranting and raving -
the attacking 'aircraft' (looked a lot like Spitfires) might as
well have been flying backwards for all the fidelity the film clips
managed.  The film the special effects guys rounded up were pasted
into just about every available porthole.  The effects were fighters
in horrible flailing skids and slips (velocity vectors completely
screwed up) and head-on closing rates, at times, of a few miles an
hour.  I conclude that no one in the special effects crew has ever
ridden in an airplane or watched an episode of 12 O'Clock High.
   The next 35 or 40 minutes improved my humor, but the writers had to
resort to fantasy to finish up the story - there must be thousands of
chronicles of narrow escapes from B-17s that they could have picked
from!?!   Oh well, you get what you pay for.

David Williams (081)
AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany

braman@dataioDataio.UUCP (Rick Braman) (11/08/85)

> > Psychics take note! No sooner do we discuss a topic on net.aviation
> > (B-17 belly turrets and the fate of the gunner in wheels-up landings)
> > than the EXACT SAME THEME is the topic of the special one-hour Amazing
> > Stories aired 3 Nov 85.  ...
> I conclude that no one in the special effects crew has ever
> ridden in an airplane or watched an episode of 12 O'Clock High.
>    The next 35 or 40 minutes improved my humor, but the writers had to
> resort to fantasy to finish up the story - there must be thousands of
> chronicles of narrow escapes from B-17s that they could have picked
> from!?!   Oh well, you get what you pay for.
> 
> David Williams (081)
> AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany

Why do you think they named the show Amazing Stories?  I'm pretty sure that
Steven Spielberg probably is aware of all the "chronicles of narrow escapes"
from WWII, but that obviously was not his intension in this episode.  I for
one enjoyed the fantasy ending.  Sure it was not realistic, but once in a
while it's kind of nice to see some creative imagination, even if it is
silly.
-- 

Rick Braman
Data I/O Corporation
Redmond, WA

UUCP  uw-beaver!teltone!dataio!braman