arms-d@ucbvax.ARPA (06/26/85)
From: The Arms-D Moderator (Harold Ancell) <ARMS-D@MIT-MC.ARPA> Arms-Discussion Digest Volume 3 : Issue 51 Today's Topics: Provisions for Detecting Nuclear Bombs SDI Software: Quanity of Code, Fletcher Report, Abstract of Paper, and What about a spacewar autopilot? Nuclear Terrorism & Doomsday Machines ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Jun 85 08:07:02 EDT From: DIETZ@RUTGERS.ARPA Subject: Can we detect nukes? Yes, I've heard the US government has a group stationed in Las Vegas that responds to nuclear threates, and that they have sensitive radiation detection devices (both airborne and truckborne) for locating nukes. Details are of course not available, but I would think a sensitive gamma ray spectrometer could detect nuclear weapons at a considerable distance. Plutonium based weapons should be more detectable than uranium-235 based devices, since they are contaminated with Pu-240 and 241 which decay with relatively short half-lives. I think the false positive rate is rather high, though, since there are lots of weak sources of gamma radiation out there, and a determined adversary could add more by spreading some low-level material around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 85 09:30:08 pdt From: Mark Stout <stout@Lancelot> Subject: Detecting Nuclear Bombs There exists a team of specialists under the control of the federal government called NEST (Nuclear Emergency Search Team) whose job is to deal with nuclear terrorism. They deal with both threats to nuke places and just to spread radioactive contamination. According to an article I read about them a while back they do have devices capable of detecting the presence of nuclear devices. I hear also that such devices can be carried on SR-71s. I do not know anything about how these devices might work; physics isn't my long suit. --Mark Stout ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 85 09:46:17 EDT From: Herb Lin <LIN@MIT-MC.ARPA> Subject: Quanity of Code To: HGA@MIT-MC.ARPA Does anyone have any idea what DARPA is planning on doing with 10 million lines of code? That strikes me as a completely excessive quanity; perhaps some dreamers really are planning on taking men completely out of the loop, something I really doubt we'll ever do. No one is talking about taking men out at the strategic level where it will be turned on. They all say that men are out at the tactical level, when you have 30 min to process 50,000 objects. FYI, the Safeguard ABM system required 3 M lines, and the software for NORAD is about 3 M lines too. One thing to remember when considering the undoubtly large quanity of code to be written: while it is clear that the battle management code can't be given a real test (which is a strong argument for having men in the loop to correct problems in real time) the code for specific weapons can be fully tested ahead of time. No time to correct the battle management code in real time. The estimates I have seen say that weapon control software (vs BM) is only about 10% of the entire system. [From the Moderator: I was actually suggesting men in the loop to correct resource allocation problems, like "OMG, nobody's covering the Foo missle fields...." I'll respond in more detail after I read your paper. - Harold ] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 1985 11:42-EDT From: Hank.Walker@CMU-CS-UNH.ARPA Subject: Re: Arms-Discussion Digest V3 #50 The only unclassified part of the Fletcher report is the chapter on battle management. This basic structure of the system would include a distributed database of targets, status of the system, status of communication links, target discrimination, target assignment, etc. A friend who has read this chapter thinks that the 10M line estimate is a reasonable one. It was based on the basic system architecture and other large software systems like the shuttle, WWMCCS, and Safeguard. The problem is not testing the code for any specific component. We can probably have fairly high confidence that individual pieces such as low-level signal processing code works. The problem is indeed that the system will probably have to have a reasonable amount of coupling. Each individual battle station will have to have a set of fault-tolerant computers just like the shuttle, so it is indeed subject to the same sorts of errors. I would think that the real problem is writing software that will have the desired behavior under all sorts of not-well-understood situations such as nearby nuclear explosions, parts of the system going arbitrarily flaky, etc. The distributed database will be tough since it must be globally distributed and updated very rapidly. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 85 19:27:45 EDT From: Herb Lin <LIN@MIT-MC.ARPA> Subject: SDI Software... Here is an abstract of a paper recently completed. It is a revised version of a paper circulated earlier this year. If you want a copy, pls let me know. ARPANET people can get it by FTP. Others should probably send Snail Mail for a hard copy, because it is too big for most mailers (there will probably be an invoice associated with it for the cost of reproducing an 80 page document). Herb Lin Center for International Studies E38-616 M.I.T. Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 253-8076 Software for Ballistic Missile Defense June 1985 Abstract A battle management system for comprehensive ballistic missile defense must perform with near perfection and extraordinarily reliability. It will be complex to an unprecedented degree, untestable in a realistic environment, and provide minimal time for human intervention. The feasibility of designing and developing such a system (requiring upwards of ten million lines of code) is examined in light of the scale of the project, the difficulty of testing the system in order to remove errors, the management effort required, and the interaction of hardware and software difficulties. The conclusion is that software considerations alone would make the feasibility of a "fully reliable" comprehensive defense against ballistic missiles questionable. IMPORTANT NOTE: this version supersedes a widely circulated but earlier draft entitled "Military Software and BMD: An Insoluble Problem?" dated February 1985. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 1985 0509-PDT From: Rem@IMSSS Subject: SDI? What about spacewar autopilot? It seems to me Reagan's strategic-defense plan is orders of magnitude more difficult than writing an autopilot for the classic video game "spacewar". Yet as far as I know nobody has written the spacewar autopilot. Perhaps a video-game autopilot that can shoot down hundreds of incoming weapons/vehicles would be a good starting point to discover if such kinds of software is within the state of the art. Does anybody know about such efforts, either successful or unsuccessful? ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 1985 19:24 EDT (Mon) From: Wayne McGuire <MDC.WAYNE%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA> Subject: Nuclear Terrorism & Doomsday Machines From: Herb Lin <LIN@MIT-MC.ARPA> ...the problem is getting the nuclear explosive, not transporting it. Terrorists can get the bomb either by buying it, stealing it, or making it. We can't stop any nuclear power from selling one (or giving one) to someone, but I think the nuclear powers are responsible enough to refrain from this one. And yet how much responsibility has the U.S. shown in allowing Israel to acquire the bomb by siphoning off, through theft and fraudulent tactics, American nuclear technology and materials? (An occasional slap on the wrist does not count as responsible restraint.) If the Soviet Union now looks the other way while one of its client states pilfers its nuclear weapons technology, how credibly can we protest? The purpose of Permissive Action Links is to keep a stolen bomb from going off (it gets disabled when the wrong code is punched in). Finally, bombs are damned hard to make, even if the raw material is (relatively) easy to get. There is a great difference between being /impossible/ to make and being /hard/ to make. Because the incentives for possessing these devices are so great, if they are theoretically buildable by small nations and groups, then eventually they will be built. And with each passing year, the knowledge and means for constructing nuclear devices inevitably seeps downward and outward from the tight control of a select scientific priesthood to more and more random people at large. With regard to the question of sabotage and theft, the following paragraphs also appeared in the _Times_ article: [begin] Rear Adm. Thomas Davies of the Navy, retired, said, "When we look at the terrorist record of the past few years, it is safe to conclude that sabotage of military and civilian nuclear facilities is at the top of the danger list." "The spectrum of targets for sabotage--at mines, enrichment and reprocessing plants, reactors, storage facilities, waste sites--is very broad, and the consequences of destruction or damage range from unpleasant to cataclysmic." The admiral, formerly in charge of nonproliferation matters at the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, contends that the possibilities of sabotage directed at commercial nuclear plants is "infinite." He adds, "The risk of theft of special nuclear materials and of weapons or their components is also very real." Explosive materials are "always traveling--moving by air, sea, truck, and railway from the mines to the enrichment plants, the fabricators, bomb assembly depots, power reactors, processing plants, and storage." "Transport of so much dangerous material in open commerce may well turn out to be the Achilles heel of the nuclear industry," he says, "a number one target for terrorist theft." [end] Mr. O'Keefe, author of the book ``Nuclear Hostages,'' an examination of nuclear war and nuclear terror, says, ``I believe that the greatest threat to civilization today is the prospect of a terrorist-implemented nuclear explosion.'' In my view, this is just nonsense. I believe that this is the most likely possibility for a nuclear bomb to be used, but to believe that it would mark the end of civilization is absurd. It does NOT threaten civlization in the way that a 10 gigaton war does. Detonating ten or twenty devices might not end civilization, but it would mangle it beyond recognition. (By the war, Nuclear Hostages is not particularly compelling. O'Keefe makes several wrong statements in it, and is not very convincing about politics, strategy, or military affairs.) I must confess that I have not yet read Mr. O'Keefe's book, but I do know that he has enormous credibility. He is very highly placed in the defense/intelligence communities, and probably knows as much about nuclear weapons as anyone in the world. Until I've been able to compare his detailed arguments against yours, I'm inclined to treat his remarks with respect. A small nuclear crazy state could not strike at the entire world -- only the US and the SU can. They might strike at someone, but not everyone. Mr. O'Keefe, and some other experts, seem to be asserting that small nuclear crazy states or groups /could/ hit, or credibly threaten to hit, many cities or strategic sites around the world, certainly enough to create an unimaginable disaster. That possibility is the point of the article. Perhaps we should be worrying a good deal more about the potential behavior of small crazy states and groups, especially those motivated by religious extremism and apocalyptic belief systems, and somewhat less about the plans and actions of the superpowers. One nuclear detonation will change the world, but it won't destroy all of us. I am worried about nuclear terrorism, and even believe in pre-emptive strike to eliminate it, but I repeat, the main problem is 10 gigatons and no way of crontolling them. We are not talking about one detonation, but many. If a small nuclear crazy state can smuggle one device into, say, the United States, it could just as easily smuggle in ten or more devices. How about two devices each in Manhattan, Washington, D.C., Boston-Cambridge, Chicago, and Los Angeles: exploding these devices would not destroy the world, but it would bring the U.S. to its knees. The same tactic could be used against the Soviet Union. I think the least likely scenario for the start of World War III is that the U.S. or USSR will launch a nuclear attack on the other; both sides have too much to lose, and are (with some notable lapses) fundamentally rational. The most likely scenario is that a small state or group, motivated by religious messianism or some other irrational impulse, and with very little or nothing to lose, will massively attack one or more of the superpowers. Even a "small" attack--with just a handful of devices, and perhaps against a small neighbor--could set in motion a larger conflagration. Analysts who are concentrating exclusively on scenarios of conventional warfare or nuclear conflict between the U.S. and USSR, and who are diddling with the comparative minutiae of U.S./Soviet strategic inventories, are, I think, misdirecting their attention. Their eye is not on the ball. There may be an analogy here to the failure of some makers of computer mainframes to underestimate the impact of minicomputers and microcomputers. Briefcase bombs in the hands of small fanatical powers may be of much greater future strategic consequence than massive weapons systems controlled by the superpowers that are for nearly all purposes unusable. Wayne McGuire <mdc.wayne%mit-oz@mit-mc> ------------------------------ [End of ARMS-D Digest]