Telecom%usc-eclb@brl-bmd.UUCP (08/08/83)
TELECOM Digest Sunday, 7 Aug 1983 Volume 3 : Issue 47 Today's Topics: Deregulation/Networks & Modems Rising Phone Costs Information Terminal Rate Recent Discussions Revisited ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wednesday, 3-Aug-83 01:18:19-PDT From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM> Subject: Deregulation/Networks & Modems I have to admit that I, for one, was not completely convinced by the FCC's arguments concerning bypass of telco facilities by private communications networks. Though I normally shudder at the thought of government intervention in such matters, I feel that the current Congressional actions, if implemented, will at least partially restore an element of fairness for residential customers. As many of you know, I am not convinced that the breakup of the Bell System is in the best interests of the average telephone customer. Private concerns applauding the "new era" of deregulation may have reason to alter their opinions when public pressure forces the reimplementation of many regulatory rules. These rules will almost certainly end up being less strict than they were in the first place, but I don't believe that the current "anything goes" philosophy, both in telecommunications and other commercial arenas, will indefinitely persevere. --- The mention of the firm "Telectric" here in Los Angeles brought back many fond memories. Back in the old days before the rise of the "phone stores", Telectric was one of the few reliable local sources for legit, decommissioned telephone equipment suitable for use in private switching systems and the like. Telectric was mentioned in a previous Telecom digest as a source for telephone "networks" for use with modems. I should point out that connecting such a network to the telephone system in the manner described is illegal. You may only legally connect FCC approved devices in their original form (that is, most user modifications de-certify the FCC registration). The sort of networks that were discussed, as far as I know, would not be FCC certified after being removed from a phone, even if the phone itself was originally under FCC certification. --Lauren-- ------------------------------ From: David.Anderson@CMU-CS-G.ARPA Subject: rising phone costs The NBC Evening News had a special segment tonight on where the Bell System split is taking us. Here's a summary of interesting tidbits for TELECOM readers: o Those whose phone bills are now under $40/mo (80% of us) are going to wind up with higher bills, and soon. The typical $10 bill will be $20-$25 next year, unless someone (Congress?) does something. o Experts are predicting that 10-15% of current subscribers will terminate their service -- the poor, elderly, small businesses that don't really need a phone, ... o MCI alone has now captured 3% of the long distance market, which was worth $1 billion last year. A question for TELECOM readers: is there any hope at all for alternative LOCAL phone service? Cellular? or how about cable? --david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 83 00:14:38 PDT From: jlapsley%D.CC@Berkeley Subject: Information Terminal Rate Below is a file I picked up off of the Moraga, CA, RIBBS (Remote CP/M bulletin board system). --- Start of forwarded message --- Downloaded from CompuServe CEM-SIG (Use GO CEM-450) by Edward Huang (with much grief to my CIS/Visa bill!) Take this seriously although Pacific Telephone has been nicer to us than the Central or Eastern Bell companies but with the planned divesture,..... we hope for the best. -Ed #: 11618 Sec. 0 - GENERAL Sb: **WARNING** 16-Jun-83 18:17:22 Fm: Rich 74055,1540 To: *ALL* --> Bell/MODEM cont. <-THIS FILE CONTAINS THE ENTIRE STORY ON THE BELL/MODEMMER BATTLE. IT IS QUITE LONG. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAVE IT IN YOUR BUFFER AND PLACE IT ON OTHER SYSTEMS THAT IS FINE. - SOMETIME IN EARLY MAY, 1983 I REQUESTED THAT A TRACER BE PLACED ON THE BBS LINE. I HAD TO EXPLAIN THE KINDS OF CALLS I WAS RECEIVING, WHICH MEANT THAT I HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT I HAD A MODEM. BELL ALREADY KNEW I HAD A MODEM, AS I REGISTERED IT WITH THEM WHEN I FIRST SET UP THE BBS. THEY DIDN'T DO THE TRACER (AT FIRST) BUT THEY SAID THAT SINCE I USED A MODEM, I WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE INFORMATION TERMINAL RATE, WHICH IS ABOUT 500% HIGHER THAN THE NORMAL PHONE RATE. FOR SEVERAL WEEKS I ARGUED WITH THE BUSINES OFFICE REPS, TELLING THEM THAT THE RATE IS ONLY FOR HIGH-SPEED LINES. I COULDN'T BELEIVE THAT ANYONE COULD PASS A TARIFF THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY OUTLAW NON-COMMERCIAL MODEM USE IN OKLAHOMA. (WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY A 500% HIGHER PHONE BILL??) --> Bell/MODEM cont. <-WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY CAN AND WILL CHARGE FOR MODEM USE. THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU USE THE MODEM 24-HOURS-A-DAY, ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE A MONTH. THE RATE IS $45.90. TOUCH-TONE ALSO GOES UP, FROM $1.25/MONTH TO $3.50/MONTH. - THANKS TO JOE PUGARELLI, KOCO-TV CHANNEL 5 WAS INTERESTED IN THE STORY, AND BROUGHT A CAMERA CREW HERE TO MY APARTMENT. I WAS ON THE NEWS THAT NIGHT AS THE REPORTERS GRIMLY TOLD THE AUDIENCE THAT THEIR PHONE RATE WAS GOING UP IF THEY USED A MODEM. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE FROM BELL IN THE STORY. HOWEVER, FIVE DAYS LATER THEY RE-RAN THE STORY, THIS TIME WITH BELL REPRESENTATIVES CONFIRMING THE ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR MODEMS. --> Bell/MODEM cont. <-IN THE MEANTIME, ABOUT 2 WEEKS PRIOR TO ANY NEWS COVERAGE, AN INFORMAL FIRST MEETING OF THE OKLAHOMA MODEM USERS GROUP (OMUG) MET IN A MCDONALDS RESTAURANT WHERE AMONG OTHER THINGS, A PETITION WAS RELEASED FOR DUPLICATION AND CIRCULATION. HOWEVER, THE PETITION TURNED OUT TO BE VAGUE, AND FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. THEREFORE, A NEW PETITION IS BEING DRAWN UP, WHICH WILL BE VERY SPECIFIC IN STATING THAT TELEPHONE SERVICE BE CLASSIFIED AS EITHER "BUSINESS" OR "RESIDENTIAL," WITH NO REFERENCES TO MODEM USE, AS MODEM USE DOES NOT NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE A BUSINESS, AND MODEM USE USES THE PHONE LINES IN THE SAME MANNER AS VOICE CONVERSATION. - NOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN NEWS COVERAGE BY LOCAL TELEVISION, AND REPORTERS FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL HAVE CALLED THE PHONE COMPANY (AND ME), JUDY MCREYNOLDS, MANAGER OF THE NORMAN BUSINESS OFFICE IS SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL WHICH WOULD BE A "COMPROMISE" BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL RATES AND THE "INFORMATION TERMINAL RATE." THIS PLAN IS BETTER THAN PAYING A 500% INCREASE, BUT STILL INVOLVES A 150-200% INCREASE FOR THE SAME SERVICE, WITH NO LOGICAL REASON FOR ANY INCREASE. THEREFORE, I INFORMED MS. MCREYNOLDS THAT HER EFFORTS WERE APPRECIATED, BUT HER PROPOSAL (IF ACCEPTED) WOULD STILL BE "UNACCEPTABLE." --> Bell/MODEM cont. <-THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO OVERCOME THIS CRIPPLING TARIFF IS FOR US TO UNITE IN AN INTELLIGENT AND ORGANIZED MANNER. I URGE ALL MODEM OWNERS IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA TO JOIN THE OKLAHOMA MODEM USERS GROUP (OMUG). ONCE WE ARE UNITED INTO ONE LARGE GROUP, WE CAN ALL MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS, UNDER THE ASSISTANCE & SUPERVISION OF AN ATTORNEY WHO IS EXPERIENCED IN THE AREA (I ALREADY HAVE ONE LINED-UP). IF NECESSARY, WE CAN INCORPORATE AND PROCED TO FILE A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION AND SOUTHWESTERN BELL. WE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TAKE THIS ACTION IF CONVENTIAL METHODS (MEDIA ATTENTION, PETITIONS) FAIL. - IF YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ISN'T ALREADY ON THE OMUG MAILING LIST, CONTACT ROBERT BRAVER IMMEDIATELY AT 360-7462, OR LEAVE [Some text deleted which violates the spirit of TELECOM. --JSol] I imagine that this is Bells' way of "testing the waters". If an insuffeceint number of peaple raise an objection then I think it would be a resonable prediction to say the other states will be hit with this also. It has been pointed out by one member of the BBS that not only Comp-u-serve, The Source, and Infotex will be affected but the MODEM manufactures and the retailers will suffer as sales drop as a result of this. C u in a BIT. Rich ( The Dragonfly ) 74055,1540 --- End of forwarded message --- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 83 04:46:45 EDT From: Hobbit <AWalker@RUTGERS.ARPA> Subject: recent discussions revisited Flick on blowers, slam all dampers open, turn on scrubbers, check supply pressure, engage ignition system.... Somehow this ''access charge'' for long distance calling seems utterly bogus. For one thing, has anyone considered how much equipment usage is devoted to calls that wind up busy or no answer?? Regardless of completion status, there is still ''usage'' to connect party X with party Y's phone, or at least make an attempt. For interoffice signaling, it would seem that the maximum bottleneck would be lots of ''Hey, connect line Q over *there*'' requests, and once the connection is established, maintaining it is relatively easy. Of course for long-haul digitally- switched stuff, it's all just more bits. I'd like to see you get people to pay willingly to listen to busy signals! If you make it so long-distance capability is optional, how is someone who didn't bother to get it supposed to call the folks in Omaha when Grand-dad just had a coronary? Borrow a neighbor's line? Go use a public phone? In other words, it's another concept that sounds pretty screwy and will be very difficult to live with. Seems that the carrier services can reap quite enough profit by billing for actual use, with compensations for the abovementioned non-connection cases. Another nit: Why do people with modems necessarily run up more usage than anyone else? I can talk to someone two towns over [still a local call, thank clod] for three hours, and then call a *closer* number and spend half an hour reading mail and bboards. I think *anyone* who is getting screwed because they use a modem sometimes should put up maximum resistance. Maybe they'll get the idea someday. It also does seem to be a gross invasion of privacy for TPC to ferret out modem carriers like that. I rent my line from the phone company for the purpose of placing calls and exchanging audio signals in either direction, and the content or type of those signals are none of their bloody business. Furthermore, since I am *not* a business, and not using the modem for any kind of profit, I should not *conceivably* be charged their so-called ''business rates''. Twist down feed valves, close dampers, drain float bowls, shake down the ash pit... _H* ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest *********************