Telecom-Request@usc-eclb@brl-bmd.UUCP (08/15/83)
TELECOM Digest Monday, 15 Aug 1983 Volume 3 : Issue 49 Today's Topics: ANALIT - Detecting Carriers Finding Touch-Tone(TM) CATV Datacomm Services Telco Tariffs / FCC Certification Telephone Flames ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Aug 1983 1552-PDT Subject: ANALIT or whatever From: Ian H. Merritt <MERRITT@USC-ISIB> The use of a program to periodically scan for a particular tone on each line (or each of a list of suspected lines) in a CO strikes me as a bit strange. Assuming the detection hardware were readily available to be switched into each of these lines quickly, this seems to be a rather ineffecient method of scanning. I seem to recall that there once was (and may still be) a class of service which said, in effect, watch for DTMF dialing and flag it. In this mode, ESS would accept tone dialing, but the ringback/dtmf test line would ignore tone signals. When tones were used, a printed log or perhaps special entries on the AMA tapes would be made, thus informing the company of unauthorized DTMF use. It makes far more sense, though, simply to ignore touch tones on lines not paying for the service, which appears to be the current policy in ESS offices. Checking for carriers would be somewhat more difficult, since there are not already detectors for this purpose. Also, DTMF signals need only be monitored during dialing; once the call has been set up, the detectors are free to be used elsewhere. Detecting carriers requires the detector during the entire call. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1983 22:06 EDT From: DVW.STRAT@MIT-OZ Subject: Finding Touch-Tone(TM) In regard to Phil's message; I have found that down here (in Virginia/DC/MD), offices run by ESS really don't need to check for Touch-Tone(TM) on rotary lines, simply because if one doesn't pay for tone, a tone pad will not break the dial tone, regardless of whether it's hardwired or acoustically coupled into the line. They're not filtered, because other carriers can receive them, but the CO refuses to hear them.. It shouldn't be that hard to find modems in ESS offices, because the software (from what I've heard) is hackable to listen for anything from DTMF to MF to whatever else they'd like. --Bob-- ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 1983 0657-PDT Subject: CATV Datacomm Services From: WMartin at Office-3 (Will Martin) Appropriately enough on reading Lauren's comments re communications provided by local CATV companies, I recalled just having read the following, from the Aug 8 issue of DATA CHANNELS (V 10 # 16), one of those high-priced technical newsletters: MOUNTAIN BELL SEEKS PROBE INTO CABLE COMPANIES' DATA SERVICE CAPABILITIES Mountain Bell, which in June asked the New Mexico Corporation Commission to stop Albuquerque Cable TV from offerring data transmission services it claims compete with telephone-delivered services, has now asked the NMCC to let it expand its complaint. The telephone company now wants the commission not only to investigate whether Albuquerque Cable is offering common carrier services without a certificate of public convenience and necessity, but also to launch an industrywide investigation into the state's cable companies' capabilities to provide services in competition with telephone companies. Rather than looking at the specifics of individual companies' actions, the Bell operating company wants the commission to look at the extent to which cable companies, now unregulated by the state, can offer ways to bypass the phone company's local loop, Mountain Bell's Jim Haynes told DATA CHANNELS contributing editor Anna L. Zornosa. Mountain Bell appears to be concerned about Los Alamos Cable TV, which plans to offer 3 data services to its small but sophisticated service area. The services, Subnet, Biznet, and Labnet, will allow subscribers with terminals in their homes to use the cable system to transmit high-speed data for a variety of applications. Labnet, the service most important to the company's interactive data program, will offer employees of the Los Alamos National Laboratory a way to work at home by using personal computers to tie into the labs. This service, an LATV official told us, will supply enough revenue to get the others off the ground. A deal between the cable system and the laboratory is nearly sealed, and the service could start in a month, he said. The other 2 services are designed for the city and county governments, students at a branch of the University of New Mexico, and businesses. Subscribers will pay $25 per month to access the services. "It's going to bring us a lot of revenue," the official said. "Surveys have shown people are very interested." Regarding Mountain Bell's challenge, he suggested that the telco "regrets the fact it didn't do it first." ****End of news item**** Some people have all the luck... Here in St. Louis City, the local politicos have been wrangling and fussing over whether to award a cable system charter for years, so I don't have Cable TV access at all, much less a choice of fancy services... Will Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 11-Aug-83 17:19:19-PDT From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM> Subject: Telco Tariffs / FCC Certification The "rules" regarding the connection of equipment to the telephone network and such are all contained in the "tariffs" that the telcos have filed with (and which have been approved by) the various state public utility commissions. These tariffs are rather like laws, but are indeed actually civil documents. The term "illegal" is frequently used to refer to acts which violate these tariffs, even though an actual "criminal" offense need not be involved. The normal reaction of the telcos to tariff violations (depending on circumstances, of course) include warnings, disconnection of service, or in some cases lawsuits. Unless there are other (criminal) acts involved, you won't normally be taken away in handcuffs for a telco tariff violation. --- On the subject of FCC certification: This certification applies to specific products and/or systems. Unless a component of an FCC certified piece of telephone equipment had been *separately* certified, that component itself would *not* be certified once it was removed from the certified equipment. Any user modifications of the certified equipment also invalidate the certification. --Lauren-- ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 1983 1517-PDT Subject: Telephone flames From: Ian H. Merritt <MERRITT@USC-ISIB> If I may make a suggestion, many of the flames about stupid telephone rate structures and excessive charges sound well-informed, and loud. I think they would be most effective if sent to the news media, senators, and regulatory agencies, in addition to this list. I have been doing so, and what I am hearing is that there are many times more angry letters being received by these agencies on this issue than on any similar issue in the past. Creative alternatives and specific points would be useful, if one is son inclined, however just another vote will make a difference. I urge anybody with any opinion on this issue to write it up and send it to the appropriate agencies. <>IHM<> [Note from the moderator: Please do NOT mention TELECOM in any of these correspondences. That would constitute political use of this digest, which is contrary to DCA policy governing ARPANet mailings such as this one. --JSol] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest *********************