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TELECOM Digest Monday, 23 Jan 1984 Volume 4 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: V&H and MCI and Credit Cards Re: 10 rings number of rings AT&T Cards, Operating Company Cards, Divestiture, and Marketing Strategy MIT Research Program on Communications Policy Quality odds & ends Canadian territories AT&T Credit Card ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun 22 Jan 84 16:53:30-EST From: Charles B. Weinstock <Weinstock%TARTAN@CMU-CS-C.ARPA> Subject: V&H and MCI and Credit Cards What exactly is a V&H tape? What is it used for? Why might I want it? My company uses MCI for virtually all of its long distance calling. I put the service in place and get several complaints a month about quality...but people keep using it because it is mostly just as good as Bell for vocal. MCI just tried to sell us an MCI Wats line. They claimed that they could save us $46 a month (over current MCI rates) by installing the single line. (Of course the savings go away almost totally when one considers that two or more people can't make simultaneous calls over the wats line.) Bell of Pennsylvania (a Bell Atlantic subsidiary) just sent my company its renewal credit cards. They were not the fancy AT&T ones described. In fact they don't even mention AT&T, just Bell of PA. They are the same old cardboard that they always were without a magnetic stripe. The only difference is that they send the PIN to you on the piece of cardboard from which the card is detached...it doesn't appear on the card. Chuck Weinstock ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jan 84 16:34:31 PST (Sunday) Subject: Re: 10 rings From: Bruce Hamilton <Hamilton.ES@PARC-MAXC.ARPA> Reply-to: Hamilton.ES@PARC-MAXC.ARPA It seems like it would be really trivial in electronic exchanges to always save the last number that had RUNG each phone, so that if you were tied up and missed a call, you go simply go to your phone and, say, hit *5 to call back the person who tried to call you. I'm amazed that I've never seen such a feature advertised, either in a public exchange or, say, in a Dimension PBX. (It would be especially handy in the PBX case where most people have their phone forward after only 3 rings.) --Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22-Jan-84 20:16:12-PST From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@RAND-UNIX> Subject: number of rings I've never encountered an operator who wouldn't let a line ring longer than seven rings on request. If you ever run across such a person, try get their operator number and speak to their supervisor, or call the business office (be sure to note the time of the call) and report the situation that way. Unfortunately, some operators will drop your call instantly when you ask for their number -- so it's best to try remember it if they gave it when they answered... --Lauren-- ------------------------------ Date: 22-Jan-1984 1633 From: (John Covert) <decwrl!rhea!castor!covert@su-shasta> Subject: AT&T Cards, Operating Company Cards, Divestiture, and Subject: Marketing Strategy Someone asked me yesterday why AT&T had issued the new AT&T cards. Here is my reply: (N.E.T. is New England Telephone) The database that validates calling cards (regardless of who issues them, AT&T, A local Bell company, a General Tel or other Independent operating company) was attached to the part of the network that went to AT&T. It makes sense for N.E.T. to establish a contract to access this database from AT&T just like GTE has always done for their customers in places like Tampa. At first glance there is no real reason for AT&T to issue their own card to N.E.T customers; the local operating companies always issued them in the past whether they were Bell operating companies or independents. There always was an interchange for the cards among all operating companies; your N.E.T card was always good for a call from Tampa to St. Pete even though GTE handled the call (GTE always handled all long distance within the 813 area code even before the split -- and there was enough traffic that typical Automatic Electric exchanges wouldn't handle it so they bought from Western Electric!!) Likewise the new card can be used for calls within a LATA, by the existence of the same agreements. So you could have just one card, and it would still be interchangeable. HOWEVER ---- AT&T is issuing their own card, for at least two reasons: 1. Technical Reason -- the AT&T Card Caller accepts the AT&T card (or an American Express card -- fantastic advantage for foreigners in this country!) and reads the mag stripe. So AT&T had to issue the card. (One might ask -- what about calls within a LATA placed from Card Caller phones? Why not? AT&T may be just long distance, but that means they are ONLY restricted from providing local dial-tone. The real restriction is on the local operating companies to not provide service outside the LATA. The long distance companies can still provide service within a LATA. How they do it, with their own network with many access points or just by buying the service from the local company doesn't matter.) 2. Marketing Reason -- (this is my opinion, not based on any inside knowledge, just looking at the market) -- AT&T wants to impress upon people that they are the best long distance company. Putting the AT&T Card into everyone's hands will remind the public that AT&T is still there, still strong, and still convenient to use. It also allowed them to write a letter to everyone saying "No, you won't get an extra bill if you use the AT&T card; we've made agreements with your local operating company to place the charges on a separate page in the bill you'll have to pay anyway." There is no reason the other Long Distance companies can't use the same marketing techniques, can't issue accounts to everyone that wants one, or even send out cards unsolicited where the accounts only become active on use; gas companies have done that for years. And there's no reason they can't get billing agreements with local operating companies. The Divestiture means that the Long Distance companies are all equal now. Competition can occur on a fair basis. Let the best company get the most customers. AT&T still handles around 98% of all long distance (the other companies are a drop in the bucket). AT&T intends to compete and to retain the market share they have. And AT&T may be able to agressively price services to win back some of that 2% of the market they've lost. Do they need to if they have only lost 2%? Do they want to? Will they get themselves into more anti-trust trouble if they try too hard? Only time will tell. ------------------------------ Date: 23 January 1984 07:39 est From: Kahin.ComForum at MIT-MULTICS Subject: MIT Research Program on Communications Policy Here follows the schedule for the RPCP spring seminar series: January 25 Planning for the Space WARC (in room E25-117) February 9 Deregulation of Cable February 23 Transport Protocol Standards March 8 New Developments in Europe March 22 Effect of Reproduction Technologies on Intellectual Property April 5 Central Services Organization (of the Bell Operating Companies) April 19 Videotex: Strategies for Startup May 3 New Directions in Educational Television Except for the seminar on January 25, all seminars are scheduled to be held in the Marlar Lounge, 37-252, 70 Vassar St. in Cambridge. ------------------------------ Subject: Quality Date: Mon, 23 Jan 84 09:59:04 EST From: Nathaniel Mishkin <Mishkin@YALE.ARPA> Speaking of quality, my experience is that ATT is not always so hot either. I'm referring to (what I'll call for lack of a better name) "half-duplex" connections -- the kind where if both parties in the conversation talk at the same time you end up with the verbal equivalent of typing out a binary file on your terminal. I don't know how widespread this kind of connection is. I know at least some of the alternative LD services use it all the time (of course they could be using ATT circuits). Presumably it saves money for the LD carrier -- why allocate capacity for the silent end of the conversation? But I think it's a real loss -- one misplaced long "uh huh" or "yeah" and the line gets "turned around" and words get chopped. Anyway, it would be nice to believe that our new competitive market will have a niche for carriers who are willing to provide full-duplex connections (at a higher price, of course). I'm not counting on it though. If anyone has the technical details behind the phenomenon, I'd enjoy hearing them. -- Nat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 84 10:45:36 EST From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl-vld> Subject: odds & ends Price of V&H tape has gone to $449 from $50?!? I'd be interested in seeing the letter explaining this new stuff about V&H tape. I ordered it further back (June 1982) and am still editing my own notes, dating as far back as summer 1976, to conform to it although we have had 3 new area codes (and another coming in NYC in June) since June 1982. I ran out of phone books to look thru in Phila. and Wilmington (Del.), and had to use many non-phone-company sources to continue to fill in my notes. (Problem with looking at phone bills is that mine get ex- pensive and others' raise the question of their privacy.) So when I edit my notes to conform to V&H tape, I have to filter out noise such as neighboring place names, messed up digits, etc. Speaking of NYC: I looked up 1984 Staten Island & Manhattan phone books a few days ago. They use the same message-unit zone numbers within NYC as before, but now split NYC between 2 tables in anticipation of 212/718 split. I vaguely recall from MANY years back (before N0X and N1X there) that from Manhattan you dialed 411 to get dir.asst. for Manhattan & Bronx, and 555-1212 for S.I., Brooklyn & Queens. A problem in the 1984 S.I. call guide: calling instructions (which anticipate 212/718 split) are those for Manhattan & Bronx, which remain in 212. (Also, I saw "area code" prefixes in SI for 1st time: 317 and 816.) As for number of rings: My mother suggested 10 many years ago. I still allow 10. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 84 13:22:43 EST From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl-vld> Subject: Canadian territories My Wilmington (Del.) directory lists Yukon in area 403 and Northwest Territories in area 604. This conflicts with my V&H tape, which did have the latter in 403, too. Was this a change or just an error? ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jan 1984 2322-PST From: Jon Solomon <JSol@USC-ECLC> Subject: AT&T Credit Card I just got mine, shiny and new. The same number as my New England Telephone credit card. There were some questions yet unanswered by the literature. 1) Is my New England telephone card no longer valid? (obvious question, since the numbers were the same). The answer was no. 2) When should I use my AT&T card and when should I use my New England card (same thing). Answer was: New England telephone will get my intra-LATA calls, but not my inter-LATA. Those are AT&T's. Inter-LADA calls will appear on the AT&T section of my phone bill. 3) Here's the one they couldn't answer. If I'm in Wyoming, making an intra-LADA call (presumably to someone else in Wyoming), will New England telephone bill me or will AT&T? It really doesn't matter NOW, but what of the future, when the LOC's no longer act as billing agents for AT&T? Yet another random divestiture question comes to mind: You have to pay all of your bill, *including* or *excluding* the AT&T charges to keep your line from being disconnected. Perhaps another call to the RSC will help... Cheers, --JSol ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest *********************