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From @MIT-MC:Telecom-Request@MIT-MC Wed Aug 22 14:41:08 1984 TELECOM Digest Thursday, 23 Aug 1984 Volume 4 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: NYC area code split N.E.T. before/after the breakup Multi-pair color codes Re: Loud Touch Tones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Aug 84 21:47 EDT From: Richard Kenner <KENNER@NYU-CMCL1.ARPA> Subject: NYC area code split Does anyone know if companies who have large lists of residential phone numbers (such as banks, brokers, insurance companies, etc.) will be updating their lists to reflect the 212/718 split? Is NY Telephone providing information that would make this easier? What about businesses outside NYC (or NYS)? What about Universities? It seems to me that some organization (like NYU) which currently has my phone number but never calls would be exactly the type to not have to call until the number has been reassigned in 212 so they would get the wrong number unless they dialed 718. Should people in Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island try to remember what organizations have their phone numbers and call each to update it? ------------------------------ Date: 21-Aug-1984 2213 From: covert%castor.DEC@decwrl.ARPA (John Covert) Subject: N.E.T. before/after the breakup JSol, I'm not sure your experience is any worse than many I've had with N.E.T. long before divestiture. A similar experience several years ago deserves relating. Our Corporate Telecom people were surprised to find a fairly large number of toll calls on one of our Arlington Foreign Exchange lines. Since we use those lines only for calls to the Boston Metro area, and since normal users have no direct access to the lines, this was pretty strange. N.E.T. couldn't figure out what was going on, and told us that we must have made the calls, since they were DDD calls, "obviously" placed from our lines. One thing we had noticed was that calls to the numbers for which we were receiving these bills were going unanswered. They should have been answered by our attendant. This raised my curiosity, and I started calling the numbers at various different times. Eventually, one evening, I got an answer. The person who answered lived in Arlington and had recently had phone service installed. She was getting bills for her local service, but had never been billed for any of her long distance calls. And, of course, she hadn't complained. The final answer was that before this started we had had some of the lines removed. N.E.T. had not been able to tell us which lines were removed. This was a rather strange method of finding out! (It was also a strange method of finding out how separate EVEN BEFORE DIVESTITURE the toll and local billing accounts were maintained.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 84 03:34 EDT From: Paul Schauble <Schauble@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA> Subject: Multi-pair color codes I seem to recall asking this before, but I can't find the answer in anything I have on hand. Does anyone know how the color coding works on multi-pair cables? In particular, - on two pair, red, green, black, yellow, which is ring and tip? - on multi-pair, which of color/white or white/color is ring/tip? - is there a preferred order for using the colors? Thanks, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 84 11:14:59 EDT From: Ron Natalie <ron@BRL-TGR.ARPA> Subject: Re: Loud Touch Tones The reason is that the touch tones really are that loud. Real telephones mute the receiver while the buttons are being pressed. If you have a standard Western Electric phone, you can tell this by pushing a button in partially, which causes the mute, but not far enough in to generate the tone. -Ron ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest *********************