telecom@ucbvax.ARPA (04/07/85)
From: Jon Solomon (the Moderator) <Telecom-Request@BBNCCA> TELECOM Digest Sat, 6 Apr 85 19:38:33 EST Volume 4 : Issue 177 Today's Topics: alternatives to modems (query) Re: alternatives to modems (query) ATT&T glossy advertising -- proto Delayed Call Forwarding weirdness ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Apr 1985 4 11:12-EST From: David.Anderson@CMU-CS-K.ARPA To: videotech@sri-csl, telecom@bbncca, info-hams@brl Subject: alternatives to modems (query) I'm looking for information on higher bandwidth alternatives to modems for communications from our department to off-campus users. The technologies that I'm considering include using an otherwise unused cable channel, packet radio, and anything else you can suggest. I'm looking for pointers to existing systems in other cities, technical articles describing these technologies, and vendors of off-the-shelf equipment. Please respond by mail, and I'll post a summary later. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 85 10:09 PST From: Thomka.es@Xerox.ARPA Subject: Re: alternatives to modems (query) To: David.Anderson@CMU-CS-K.ARPA If you have the equipment to transmit a closed cable television channel you may look into having a full teletext channel (no picture, using almost the entire 525 lines for teletext code). I'm not suggesting that you send out a picture, just that you use the technology to send data to a decoder on the other end of the cable. With a 5.7 Mbit/sec. rate, which US teletext uses, you could get super fast data transmision, even if you included a lot of error checking and correction. See Radio and Electronics magazine Nov81, Dec81 and Feb82 for a 3 part article on what teletext is and is capable of. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 85 13:29:50 PST From: "Theodore N. Vail" <vail@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA> To: telecom@bbncca.arpa Subject: ATT&T glossy advertising -- proto I just received a fancy advertising brochure from AT&T Bell Laboratories. It contained a lot of spiff about high-visibility projects at Bell Labs, an editorial about the "ultimate network" (i.e. AT&T's Network Systems), etc. It is well done and quite similar to what I receive from many other large corporations. The unique difference is that it came with a letter inviting me to subscribe to future issues for $15.00 per year! With this kind of merchandising effort, how can AT&T's competition fail to succeed? ted ------------------------------ Date: Fri 5 Apr 85 16:41:22-PST From: Ole Jorgen Jacobsen <OLE@SRI-NIC.ARPA> Subject: Delayed Call Forwarding weirdness To: TELECOM@BBNCCA.ARPA I want to tell you about a an interesting hassle I am having with Pacific Bell, and maybe someone can make a few comments based on your knowledge of how an ESS works, or perhaps point me to some wizard that can verify this behaviour. A couple of weeks ago I had "Delayed Call Forwarding" (DCF) installed on my 325-9427 number. This feature (also commonly known as forward-on- no-answer) allows the incoming call to be routed to a secretary, answering service or whatever. The restriction is that the destination number is FIXED, it is programmed in at the time of installation, and to have it changed you pay another $6 and presumably wait a couple of days. Well, since I have TWO lines, the obvious way to make this a more flexible service is to have the DCF go to my OTHER number, 325-9542 which in term would be variably forwarded to the number of my choice. This would yield the following (expected) behaviour: 1. You call 325-9427 2. You hear 3 rings 3. On (or about) the 4th ring the call is transferred to 325-9542 which rings ONCE to indicate that it is forwarded 4. Normal forwarding then takes place (the caller hears ringing while all this is going on) and the destination number is reached. BUT, this does not work at all. When the second line is forwarded, no DCF to that line takes place and the phone will ring forever on the first -9427 number. I tried to explain to the Pac Bell people that this was very undesirable and only works this way because both numbers are on the SAME ESS. In other words, the ESS "knows" that -9542 is forwarded and this somehow overides DCF. The way they explained this to me is that there are conceptually TWO tables, one dynamic (for normal call forwarding) and one fixed for DCF. The fixed "DCF-table" is altered when -9542 is forwarded and this results in a "no-go" for DCF. If you instead have DCF going to ANOTHER CO, the first CO has no "knowlege" of any forwarding tables in the second CO and therefore you can merily forward your DCF destination number to wherever you like and things will work as one normally expects. Now for the punchline: Pac Bell cannot determine whether the above restriction is a bug or an intended feature and have requested Bell Labs to investigate, something which apparently takes 6 months or more. Meanwhile, I am considering biting the dust and having the DCF go to another CO (my office) and "steer it" from there. If anyone out there has extensive knowledge of ESSs, I would appreciate a message or a call, is this a bug or a feature?? <OLE> ------- ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest ******************************