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From: Jon Solomon (the Moderator) <Telecom-Request@BBNCCA> TELECOM Digest Tue, 4 Jun 85 16:24:17 EDT Volume 4 : Issue 197 Today's Topics: Racal-Vadic VA3451 Modem Problem 2400 bps modems can be non-standard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 May 85 13:39:20 pdt From: ucdavis!bluebell!russell@Berkeley (Michael Russell) To: CSNET-FORUM@CSNET-SH, INFO-CPM@AMSAA, INFO-MICRO@BRL-VGR, TELECOM@BBNCCA, Subject: Racal-Vadic VA3451 Modem Problem Cc: CIC@CSNET-SH, DDUSTMAN@CSNET-SH, LONG@CSNET-SH, MOOERS@CSNET-SH In order to get connected to the CSNET PhoneNet, we bought a Racal-Vadic VA3451 Auto-Dial modem. The modem was delivered in early 1985, and the manual that came along with it was entitled "VA3451 Modem Installation/ Operation Manual", "Initial Issue", "November, 1984". There appears to be an problem with the modem and an error in the manual. After we put the modem into service, it occasionally got itself into a funny state. The modem was off-hook even though there was no connection, and the modem was generating a carrier. The lights that were lit were: HS, DSR, and DTR. Further, disconnecting the modem from its DTE by removing the RS232 plug (thereby dropping DTR) did not cause the modem to go on-hook. Neither did unplugging the modem from the phone line. It was possible to force the modem to go on-hook either by toggling power or by flipping the DA/VO/MA switch on the front panel away from VO and then back. I telephoned the Racal-Vadic Service Hotline, and we tried a several months worth of different things, but nothing would make the problem go away. On Wednesday, 5/29/85, Diane Dustman, CSNET-CIC Technical Staff, phoned me to tell me that our modem was off-hook. She asked me to reset the modem so that CSNET-RELAY could begin to call our host again. I told her that I knew about the problem and that I was working on it. I asked her if she often had to telephone site liaisons asking for a modem to be reset. She said that she sometimes did, but that it didn't strike her as a widespread problem. In any case, she mentioned my problem to Dan Long, CSNET Technical Liaison, and it jogged his memory. He sent on to me something he had received in early 1984. It was an article, signed by "--Lauren--", that had been distributed to the INFO-MICRO, INFO-CPM, UNIX-WIZARDS, and TELECOM interest groups. Charles Lindahl at "ti-csl" (Texas Instruments Central Research Labs in Dallas) had forwarded the article to Dan Long. Briefly, the article described exactly the problem that we were experiencing with our modem. The article said that the fix involved changing the strapping so that the A1 switch was OFF. The setting of the A1 switch is ignored, and A1 is considered as ON, if the modem is set to its "Standard Configuration" via the A6 switch. The article said that A6 should be set to ON in order to turn off the "Standard Configuration", i.e., to enable all the other switches. I had set A6 to the non-"Standard Configuration" setting, but according to my manual, that setting was achieved with A6 OFF, not ON as was indicated in the article. The fact that the manual I have is wrong was verified by a Racal-Vadic Field Service representative. I will forward a copy of this to him, in order to be sure that the error in the manual is corrected. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you yet that, by setting A6 to ON and A1 to OFF, our problem has been solved. I had mailed the modem back to Racal-Vadic for repair just before I got the information from Dan Long. In any case, I would like to express my thanks to Diane, Dan, Charles, and Lauren for getting this information to me. Michael Russell russell@ucd.csnet ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!bluebell!russell ucdavis!bluebell!russell@berkeley.arpa russell%bluebell%ucdavis.uucp@berkeley.arpa ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 8 May 1985 16:25-MDT From: "Robert P. Cunningham" <ihnp4!islenet!bob@Ucb-Vax> Subject: 2400 bps modems can be non-standard [These are my notes on some problems with U.S.-made 2400 bps modems, using information from a variety of different articles and discussions with various vendors. Clarifications and corrections welcome.] 2400 bps modems. Twice the throughput of 1200 bps modems for less than twice the price. It sounds good, but many of the new 2400 bps modems now on the market in the U.S. are not completely compatible with similar models from other manufacturers. There is no U.S. asynchronous dial-up 2400 bps standard in the same sense that the Bell 212 modem set the standard for 1200 asynchronous modems. There are two European standards: "CCITT V.22 bis" and "CCIT V.26 ter". These are written standards, while the Bell 212 was a complete working product, with very well known operating characteristics. A minor difference in principle, but a tremendous difference in practice. Not only are there loopholes in the CCITT standards that give each manufacturer considerable room to be creatively different, but there are some modifications that U.S. manufactures tend to make in order to maintain some compatiblity with existing U.S. equipment. The result is that many of the 2400 async dial-up modems are incompatible with each other in various ways. Most of the new U.S. made 2400 bps async dial-up modems follow the V.22 bis standard. They transmit and receive simultaneously by splitting the available bandwidth in half, using half to receive and the other to transmit, with a 16 point Quadrature Amplitude Modulation (QAM) technique at 600 baud [precisely speaking, the baud rate is the rate of change of the signal ... QAM and most other techniques provide a way of encoding several bits into each change of the signal]. A few use an alternate CCITT specification -- V.26 ter. Signal cancelling (the receiver cancelling out the echo of its own transmitted signal) allows the whole bandwith of a phone line to be used. V.26 ter uses a Differential Phase Shift Keying technique to handle 2400 bps at 1200 baud. V.22 2400 bps is probably less reliable than 212-type 1200 bps over long-distance lines, V.26 ter is probably better than 212. Of course V.22 bis and V.26 ter are completely incompatible. While V.22 bis seems to be the preferred standard now, there is a good chance it may eventually be superseeded by V.26 ter. [Then again, maybe not; the Vadic 1200 bps technique is -- in some ways -- more effective than 212, but it's never really caught on.] Now, about those loopholes in V.22 bis ... The standard designates a fall-back speed, if the originate and answer modems can't handle a 2400 bps connection. However, the standard doesn't specify how the connected DTE equipment (computer or terminal) is to be notified of the fall-back. The RS232C standard doesn't cover it. With V.22 bis, each U.S. manufacturer seems to have chosen a DIFFERENT way of indicating a speed change when the modem falls back, using various of the seldom-used secondary control pins on the RS232C connector. Chances are that the typical DTE device you hook up your 2400 bps modem to will ignore the speed change signal. Then, when you obtain a dial-up connection that's a bit noisy, the modem falls back. It sets up and maintains the connection nicely, but not at the baud rate your computer or terminal expects. This can tie up the equipment at each end indefinitely. V.22 bis specifies the CCITT V.22 format for 1200 bps fallback. Unfortunately, that's incompatible with Bell 212. To allow V.22 bis modems to be used together with regular 212 modems, many (but not all) of the U.S. manufacturers have chosen to make 212 rather than V.22 the fallback. As a convenience, some (but, again not all) of the U.S. makers who provide 212-type 1200 bps fallback also provide a further 103-type 300 bps fallback from 1200 bps. Nice feature, but definitely not in V.22 bis. There's still another common "Americanization" that U.S. manufacturers have adopted. V.22 bis assumes that the European standard 2,100 Hz answer tone be sent by the answering modem during initial connection handshaking. Many U.S. manufacturers have instead adopted the regular U.S. 2,225 Hz answer tone -- again for 212-type compatibility. Unfortunately, this means that many U.S.-made V.22 bis modems won't handshake at all with a European V.22 bis modems. V.22 bis specifies V.25 (or V.25 bis) autodialing. U.S. makers prefer their own variation of the Hayes autodialing commands (or the Concord technique, or the AT&T technique, or Cermatek ... there's definitely no effective U.S. standard for autodialing commands). Summary & recommendations: If you want a 2400 modem that will talk to European-made modems make sure it uses the 2.1 kHz answering tone, and has V.22 (not 212) fallback. Find out whether the other end uses V.22 bis or V.26 ter. If you need point-to-point 2400 bps dialup in the U.S., choose your favorite manufacturer, but you'll have more consistent results of you have the same model from the same company at the other end. Otherwise, don't be surprised when your modem "hangs". In any case, may expect to see more "phone line hits" -- especially over long-distance lines -- than you get with your 1200 bps modem. -- Bob Cunningham ..{dual,ihnp4,vortex}!islenet!bob Honolulu, Hawaii ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest ******************************