[net.video] Video 45's

okamoto@ucbvax.ARPA (Jeff Okamoto) (11/19/84)

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I've been hearing a lot of stuff about video 45's, which are basically
like the videos we all know and love (?) on MTV.  However, everybody
I've talked to hasn't heard the slightest thing.  What's the straight
word?  I like MTV and I try to tape some of my favorite videos but
I always miss the first 5 seconds (reaction time) and I DON'T want
to just leave the tape going and hope it catches something that
I wanted.  Plus they always chop off the last 5-30 seconds to switch
to their next video.  Can anyone help me?

Jeff Okamoto
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keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) (11/20/84)

>I've been hearing a lot of stuff about video 45's, which are basically
>like the videos we all know and love (?) on MTV.  However, everybody
>I've talked to hasn't heard the slightest thing.  What's the straight
>word?  I like MTV and I try to tape some of my favorite videos but
>I always miss the first 5 seconds (reaction time) and I DON'T want
>to just leave the tape going and hope it catches something that
>I wanted.  Plus they always chop off the last 5-30 seconds to switch
>to their next video.  Can anyone help me?

>Jeff Okamoto

The impression I've got is that the best media for video 45's would be
5 inch laser disks.  Unfortunately this form would not be too useful
for anything else (except perhaps albums without video).  Video disks
are unpopular because of their inability to record off-air video.  Tapes
on the other hand are not cost-effective (I believe) when used for very
short (video 45) type presentations.  If CED players could replay 
short videos in addition to the digital audio, then there would be
a market strategy, though I don't know about the feasability of
CED players with such features.

Keith Doyle
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dw@rocksvax.UUCP (Don Wegeng) (11/21/84)

I'm not sure what you mean by the term "Video 45's", but I can tell you that
there is quite a bit of Video music available.  Most of these video tapes
contain several music videos by a particular artist.  Examples include
Dire Straits - "Making Movies", and Michel Jackson -"The Making of Thriller"
(which includes a behind the scenes look at the making of the Thriller video,
the Thriller video itself, plus several others from that album).  Most are
available in HiFi formats.

You also might be interested in some of the concert performance
movies which are available.  The ones which come to mind are Woodstock I
& II, but I'm sure that there are others.

I've seen all of these in Beta format through my video movie club.  Any
store which sells video movies should be able to get them for you (ask to
look at a catalog).

-- 
/Don

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gm@trsvax.UUCP (11/24/84)

Sony was the first one to release the Video 45's (mainly to get something
out in Beta Hi-Fi when they were first released) around the summer of '83.
They normally have two or three videos by the same artist priced at around 
$15-$20. Since the release of the VHS Hi-Fi units, the number of Video 45's
has really taken off. Not wishing to sound too much like a advertisment,
Radio Shack even sells some tapes in Beta and VHS Hi-Fi of videos from
MTV. I never did buy any, mainly because anything I actually purchase
(as opposed to renting and copying), I always get in Laserdisk
format because sooner or later, the tape will wear out. I have noticed
something recorded in Beta Hi-Fi on my Sony SL-2700 seems to last
about 50-70 plays before the sound quality self-destructs. A few other
people must feel this way also, because Pioneer has started releasing
"Laser 45's". I have purchased Phil Collins and David Bowie in this
format. They are recorded on 8" disks (instead of the 12" full-length
movie version) on one side with the CAV encoding which offers all those
whiz-bang special effects. I can get them at Videoland for $10.99. For
example, the Phil Collins disk has "In the Air Tonight", "Thru these Walls",
and "You Can't Hurry Love". The David Bowie disk has "Modern Love", "China 
Girl", and "Let's Dance". The sound quality is slightly less with the Laserdisk
than Beta Hi-Fi (70db vs. 80db dynamic range), but that's not too noticeable.
And, as I said earlier, the Laserdisk will last a LOT longer than the tape.

George Moore					  Tandy System Software
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