[net.video] Summary on cable/monitor questions

wales@ucla-cs.UUCP (02/10/85)

A couple of weeks ago, I posted some questions regarding cable TV and
25" stereo cable-ready monitors.  This message is to summarize what I
found out.

Thanks to the following people who replied to me:

	    David G. Cantor      ucla-cs!dgc
	    Lauren Weinstein      vortex!lauren
	    ???                    ihlpm!rfish
	    Mark Salzman          tekigm!marks
	    Don Doerner           unmvax!dd
	    J. Abeles              mhuxm!abeles
	    H. Reza Taheri         ihuxb!reza

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(1) Splitters and Amplifiers:

    (a) Each side of a two-way splitter will experience a signal loss of
	3.5 to 6 dB from the original signal level.  (3 dB, of course,
	means that the signal strength is cut in half.)  This should not
	matter, unless the cable company is sending out an excessively
	weak signal to begin with.

    (b) Cable amplifiers are available at reasonable cost ($50 or so),
	but should not be necessary unless you are feeding lots of
	sources from a single cable.  You don't need a "broadband" unit
	capable of handling UHF, since cable systems don't use UHF.

    (c) Unused splitter or amplifier outputs should be terminated with
	75-ohm dummy loads.

    (d) Typical cable systems offer at least 20 dB isolation between the
	user and the system -- and some 60 dB isolation between two ad-
	jacent users.  Hence, there appears to be no way that use of a
	splitter or an amplifier could mess up other customers.

    (e) Some cable companies evidently do object to the use of splitters
	or amplifiers (unless supplied by the cable company itself at a
	price!).  I didn't get any feedback at all regarding whether
	such policies are in fact legally enforceable.

	Is there any procedure for "type-approval" of cable amplifiers
	and cable-ready consumer devices (TVs, VCRs, tuners, etc.), such
	that said device can be guaranteed not to cause problems on a
	cable system, and thus that the cable company can have no valid
	grounds for objecting to the device being attached to the cable?
	(Sort of like what is done with phones and modems now -- if the
	device is FCC-approved, you can connect it to your phone line
	even if you didn't buy it from your local phone company.)

    (f) Many VCRs have both "VHF in" and "VHF out" cable jacks, and the
	output can be set up to come either from the VCR or directly
	from the input.

	When connecting both a VCR and a cable-ready TV to a single
	cable, then, an alternative to using a splitter is to connect
	the incoming cable to the "VHF in" jack of the VCR, and then
	connect the "VHF out" of the VCR to the TV.

	The output from the VCR can then be seen on channel 3 or 4 of
	the TV -- or, if the TV has monitor inputs, you would of course
	connect to them from the VCR's video/audio outputs.

	This approach seems much cleaner than using a splitter.  It has
	the advantage of providing the maximum possible signal to the
	VCR.  While there is some insertion loss involved in going into
	the TV through the VCR, it is probably no worse than using a
	splitter.  I would suppose, too, that a setup like this is much
	less likely to cause raised eyebrows from a cable-TV service
	person on a house call than a splitter would be.

(2) 25" stereo cable-ready monitors:

    (a) Stereo capability.

	I found out from personal experience while shopping for a new TV
	that you have to be VERY careful regarding claims that a TV has
	the ability to receive stereo broadcasts.  In at least two dif-
	ferent places, I had salespeople insist to me that a given set
	had "stereo" -- when in fact all it really had was either stereo
	monitor inputs or some kind of stereo-simulating circuitry, but
	no stereo broadcast reception capability at all.

	When trying to decide whether a set has "true" stereo, look for
	evidence that it can pick up a "secondary" or "bilingual" audio
	channel from a station.  Look for an indicator marked something
	like "bilingual", "SAP" (secondary audio program), or "audio B",
	as well as a switch or push-button that can select either the
	regular audio or the secondary audio.

	As far as I could tell from fairly exhaustive searching, if a
	set doesn't have the above-mentioned "secondary" or "bilingual"
	audio facility, it doesn't have stereo broadcast reception cir-
	cuitry either, no matter what the salesman tries to tell you.

    (b) Cable readiness.

	Cable-ready tuners these days seem to have anywhere from 105 to
	169 channels (the extra ones beyond the 82 VHF and UHF broadcast
	channels correspond to various and assorted small bands of chan-
	nels used for cable transmissions).  I ran into two schools of
	thought:

	(1) Get as many channels as possible, so you'll be ready for
	    anything a local cable company throws at you.

	(2) 105 channels is probably all you or your children will ever
	    need.

	As a result, I made the number of channels on the tuner a sec-
	ondary issue when looking for a set.

    (c) What did I end up buying?

	I was initally attracted to some Fisher sets, but changed my
	mind after some knowledgable friends indicated some misgivings
	about the reliability of Fisher products in recent years.

	I fell in love with the Mitsubishi 2566.  Some people told me
	that Mitsubishi was relatively new and untested in the video
	field, while others considered their stuff to be excellent.  In
	any case, just as I was about to make my purchase, every Mitsu-
	bishi supplier in Los Angeles seemed to "dry up" all at once --
	absolutely no one had a Mitsubishi 2566 in stock, nor could they
	promise one for several weeks to come.

	I finally ended up buying an RCA FKC2023.  This set has two reg-
	ular monitor inputs (video/left/right), as well as an RGB input.
	The tuner has 127 channels, and you can switch between the var-
	ious input sources via the remote.  Further, I can control both
	the TV and my VCR (an RCA VJT700) with a single remote.  (Oh, as
	an aside, the picture is excellent too. :-})

	So I'm happy.  The only thing I find slightly objectionable with
	the 2023 is that, when you switch channels, the tuner takes
	about half a second to lock in on the new channel -- but I can
	live with that.

	I am driving the VCR directly from the incoming cable, with the
	TV being fed from the VCR's VHF output (same setup as described
	earlier in this message).  I could see no difference in picture
	quality between this "series" approach and connecting the TV
	from the incoming cable via a splitter, by the way.
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                                                             Rich Wales
                           University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
                                            Computer Science Department
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