[net.video] Walt Disney's Fantasia?

piety@hplabs.UUCP (Bob Piety ) (02/15/85)

Does anyone know if Fantasia is available on video tape or audio compact
disc?  If so, where?  I have been unable to find it anywhere.

Any comments are appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob

lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (02/15/85)

None of the first line Disney classics, including "Snow White,"
"Sleeping Beauty," "Fantasia," and a number of others, have been
released for home video or cable showing in any form.  These films
cycle back to movie theatres at regular intervals and bring in
*very* substantial money at each cycle as new audiences are exposed
to the material.  There is considerable pressure on Buena Vista
(Disney) to release the classics for home video, but they have so far
resisted all such efforts.

--Lauren--

rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) (02/15/85)

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Not available yet to my knowledge and I follow the releases in Video mag
every month. You have been able to buy the records for some years. But
probably no more. Last I heard Disney, inc had really screwed it all up.
Years ago they screwed up the visuals by blowing them up and lopping off
the top and botgtom to fit the new cinemascope screens. Perhaps they
preserved a print or two of the original so they can back away from that
fiasco.
Then, the last I heard, they had decided in their infinite stupidity, to
rerecord the sound with another orchestra and "modern" techniques. People
who saw it said the music sounded "o.k." but no longer synched with the
film. I have records mixed down to two channel stereo from the original
6 or 8 channel process. I never thought they had anything to be ashamed
of sonically.
I saw the original film in 1939 as a 9 year old kid at the Radio City
(old ??) in Minneapolis. that was a scaled down version of Radio City 
music hall in NYC. THey took the theater down foe a month to install the specialsound system (surround sound they would call it today) and screen about
one acre in size (but with the standard aspect ratio). It was fabulous.
I iused to resee the film everytime it was rereleased until they butchered
it in the 50's, I think it was.
If they put it back to the original sound and picture, in the hi-fi
process (either beta or vhs) it should be perfect on a vcr. I would 
certainly buy one.
Disney, however, as you probably know, is very slow to release anything
in video cassette.

-- 

"It's the thought, if any, that counts!"  Dick Grantges  hound!rfg

mat@hou4b.UUCP (Mark Terribile) (02/18/85)

I recall reading that Fantasia is STILL in continuous release and that is
not now in home video release, nor is it ever likely to be.
-- 

	from Mole End			Mark Terribile
		(scrape .. dig )	hou4b!mat
    ,..      .,,       ,,,   ..,***_*.

rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (02/19/85)

> ...There is considerable pressure on Buena Vista
> (Disney) to release the classics for home video, but they have so far
> resisted all such efforts.
> 
> --Lauren--

On the one hand, there's a lot of Disney stuff on video cassettes.  On the
other hand, most of what's there is fluff, and I recall reading that Disney
has been one of the strongest firms advocating controls and/or extra fees
on video cassettes and recorders.
-- 
Dick Dunn	{hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd		(303)444-5710 x3086
   ...Relax...don't worry...have a homebrew.

gnome@oliveb.UUCP (Gary Traveis) (02/21/85)

Yes, as a matter of fact, Disney Studios  was the single strongest
lobbyist pushing the "Sony suit" through.  It went to the supreme
court and was dismissed.  However, Disney, with it's bevy of lawyers
are now trying to get the Senate do push through a tax on blank
media.  That covers ALL blank (magnetic) media.

Looks like Disney Studios is trying to make all its money off of
lawsuits instead of good animation or moviemaking.

They've forgotten how to make good movies, so now they simply
fund other production companies.

Gary


(The usual disclaimer)

omh@brunix.UUCP (Owen M. Hartnett) (02/21/85)

The original soundtrack was (is?) available on a 2 record LP set, conducted
by Leopold Stokowski.  The movie is being rereleased with a new sound track,
however, conducted by [I forget his name, but not a well known conductor].
Come to think of it, the original record may have been a "Music from the movie"
and not the actual soundtrack [some of the pieces, notably Rite of Spring, was
seriously edited, Stravinsky got mad when he heard it].

freak@ihu1n.UUCP (c e malloy) (02/22/85)

> Looks like Disney Studios is trying to make all its money off of
> lawsuits instead of good animation or moviemaking.
> 
> They've forgotten how to make good movies, so now they simply
> fund other production companies.
> 
> Gary

I still believe that if Walt were still alive, Disney would be in the
fore-front of releasing their movies on both tape and disc.  It seems
to me that he would be consintrating on making more good movies (both
live and animated), rather then spending money on lawyers to stop the
public from seeing the great work that his genius produced.  The only
good animated movie that I have seen since his death was  "The Secret
of Nim", which was done by Don Bluth, an animator that worked for the
disney studios until they stopped making animated movies.

But this discussion should be moved to net.movie.


Clancy Malloy
AT&T Bell Labs
Indian Hill
Naperville, IL
(..!ihnp4!ihu1n!freak)

chim@ncsu.UUCP (Bill Chimiak) (02/26/85)

You are right about Walt.  I read a biography
about Walt Disney.  Roy Disney, his brother 
always cared
about the money aspect.  Walt was wanting always 
to create the next great animation
without caring about the financial stability of
his enterprise.  His gambles were good ones
however.