[comp.archives.admin] RFD: comp.archives.reviews and comp.archives.lists

emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) (06/27/91)

Here is a description of two new newsgroups that fit under the
general realm of comp.archives, which I would like to get some
discussion about.  I think that they'd both be a good addition
to the net, in terms of providing a home for some information
that otherwise gets lost and for easing the burden of moderation
of comp.archives.

comp.archives.lists -- for lists, catalogs, descriptions of collections,
	or any other collective information.  The prototypical
	posting would be Jon Granrose's (late) Anonymous FTP list;
	various other postings, like the list of Amiga FTP sites,
	would be welcome here.  I'd hope that regular monthly
	site list information postings would be cross-posted into
	this group.  Not moderated, but posters are expected to
	adhere to standards of good behavior, and discussion should
	directed to more appropriate lists.

comp.archives.reviews -- for comparative reviews, analysis, critical
	discussion, and additional information about packages which
	have appeared in comp.archives or in any of the *.sources.*
	newsgroups.  Some of this traffic appears in comp.archives
	right now; it would be funnelled off to the new group.
	Moderation?  Well, I don't want to moderate it, but I'd be
	happiest if this group ended up being archival quality;
	that might mean some sort of post-moderation with weekly
	lists of keeper reviews posted to comp.archives.lists.
	Needs discussion.

Creating both of these groups would change the charter of comp.archives
somewhat, to read

comp.archives -- for announcement or updates of software and resources
	available on the internet.  Postings are culled from other
	usenet newsgroups, there is no mechanism for submitting articles
	per se.  comp.archives will be limited to primary source materials,
	i.e. postings from the authors or maintainers of the packages 
	only, or from the keepers of archive sites; secondary source
	materials (reviews, analysis, criticism) are more properly 
	found in comp.archives.reviews.

	comp.archives will also extract README files and other supporting
	documentation from ftp'able materials and post those as appropriate
	or as the opportunity arises from a comp.archives.reviews notice.

comp.archives has been enriched substantially by the availability of
comp.archives.admin, a group which handles meta-discussions about
archive stuff rather well.  It's missing a channel for materials of
relatively short lifetimes which have frequent updates (comp.archives.lists)
and a separation of announcements from critique (comp.archives.reviews).

I'd note that comp.archives.reviews can be thought of as a competitor
to comp.sources.d; for that reason, perhaps, it should be moderated.  If
the review cycle can be made timely enough I'd argue for moderation,
so long as things don't sit in moderator's queues for weeks.

--Ed

Edward Vielmetti, moderator, comp.archives; vp research MSEN Inc. emv@msen.com